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Dealing with hangover highs

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Mandarin

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I have recently ben suffering from some very low sugars (not sure why yet - got appointment with specialist on 26th) and am not entirely sure how to deal with the high that follows.

I had a reading of 1.9 mid afternoon yesterday and had a small carton of orange juice and 2 digestives (this is how my nurse told me to deal with the lows) and by tea time was at 24.
Should I take a full correction dose, take small correction doses at regular intervals or leave it to gradually correct itself?

I am very keen to get on top of things as I do not want to go back on the anti depressants and can feel the anxiety rising because all I seem to be doing is firefighting rather that controlling.
 
without knowing what you are taking is difficult to comment but have you tried bringing urself up with 2 or 3 glucose tabs rather than orange juice loaded with fructose and digestives rich in carbs??

that might settle you down more effectively - works for me!
PAUL
 
Hi Mandarin,
Do you have a cold or flu,or recently had it?
I had the flu last week and it sent my mmol bonkers!
at 8 am i was at 3.0 and shaking terribly, I ate 5 of my wifes xmas chocolates,had all bran and checked at 11 am that morning,I was at 31.5,the 2 days after were awfull.
I am now a lot better and my bloods are a lot better,although i need to learn to carb count! are you carb counting?
stephen
 
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<br />Hi Mandarin,
Do you have a cold or flu,or recently had it?
I had the flu last week and it sent my mmol bonkers!
at 8 am i was at 3.0 and shaking terribly, I ate 5 of my wifes xmas chocolates,had all bran and checked at 11 am that morning,I was at 31.5,the 2 days after were awfull.
I am now a lot better and my bloods are a lot better,although i need to learn to carb count! are you carb counting?
stephen
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I believe you are all over-compensating for your hypos. Have you heard of the 15/15 rule? Take 15g carbohydrates and wait 15 minutes, test again and if necessary administer another 15 g carbs. I find one Lucozade tablet + a packet of WeightWatchers biscuits (14.4 carbs per pack) do the trick excellently and keep me steady for hours. WW biscuits come in boxes of 6 packs of 2 biscuits. As they are wrapped in 2s they don't go stale and are very handy to carry around. However you may vary and may need to work out what exactly is right for you. Don't do the knee-jerk over-compensating or you will find yourself on a roller coaster of high/low/high which takes a while to level.

Stephen, Chocolate is <b>not</b> recommended as a treatment for hypos. You need fast acting carbs. The amount of fat in chocolate slows the absorption down too much to be an efficient remedy for a hypo.

It is sad of course, that the time we *can* eat something which would normally be a treat, we're not in the mood to really enjoy it!
 
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<br />sorry the above was me... forgot to log in

Patti
On Levemir/Novorapid. Last hba1c 5.3
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lol
Thanks Patti
 
Thanks for the replys guys

Bonerp - I am on novorapid and levemir

StephenFromScotland - Yes I am carb counting - I take 1.5 units per 10g carbs for breakfast and lunch and 1.25 for tea - something to do with hormone levels during the day and my correction dose is 1 unit per 3 points over.

Pattidevans - the way my nurse described how to deal with the lows when I tested at 1.8 in front of her was to have the fruit juice first as fruit sugar is very quickly absorbed and brings the sugar level up quickly and the biscuits have complex carbs which are slower to absorb but remain in the system longer and reduce the risk of it dropping again.
And you are so right about the rollercoaster - this is not the first time I have been on it but I am desperate to jump off.

When I was first diagnosed 7 years ago the advice I was given was to take mars bars or coke -its no wonder so many people find it difficult to control when the advice offered by professionals varies so much.
 
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the day and my correction dose is 1 unit per 3 points over.

Pattidevans - the way my nurse described how to deal with the lows when I tested at 1.8 in front of her was to have the fruit juice first as fruit sugar is very quickly absorbed and brings the sugar level up quickly and the biscuits have complex carbs which are slower to absorb but remain in the system longer and reduce the risk of it dropping again.
And you are so right about the rollercoaster - this is not the first time I have been on it but I am desperate to jump off.

When I was first diagnosed 7 years ago the advice I was given was to take mars bars or coke -its no wonder so many people find it difficult to control when the advice offered by professionals varies so much.
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Your nurse was right about needing quick acting carbs followed by complex carbs. The lucozade tabs bring the sugar up quickly and, I find personally, that it's easier to control my intake if I have lucozade tabs rather than gulping juice which you are unlikely to be able to measure. They work just as fast..... as to mars bars... grrrrr.... well, they (the nurses) can't be blamed I suppose, they're not diabetic and not likely to lose their eyesight or a leg are they?

Patti
On Levemir/Novorapid. Last hba1c 5.3
 
1.8, 1.9 are very low BS level. It's likely that your liver has already started releasing sugar to counteract the hypoglycaemia when you are at that stage. So you may be very high afterwards.
And of course you have to treat it with quick acting + long lasting carbs. Unfortunately the best way to avoid those highs are to get rid of the lows. By minimising the risks of hypos you won't have that high levels. Not easy to do i know :oops:
Take care.
 
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