Dean Ornish said:Patients on an Atkins diet in this study showed more than double the level of CRP (C-reactive protein), which is a measure of chronic inflammation and also significantly higher levels of cortisol, a key stress hormone. Both of these increase the risk of heart disease and other chronic diseases. A major research article published recently in the British Medical Journal studied 43,396 Swedish women over 16 years. It concluded that “low carbohydrate-high protein diets ... are associated with increased risk of cardiovascular diseases.” An important article in The New England Journal of Medicine examined data from a study showing that high-protein, low-carb diets promote coronary artery disease even if they don’t increase traditional cardiac risk factors like blood pressure or cholesterol levels. A diet low in fat and high in unrefined carbohydrates caused the least amount of coronary artery blockages, whereas an Atkins-type diet caused the most.
In 35 years of medical research, conducted at the nonprofit Preventive Medicine Research Institute, which I founded, we have seen that patients who ate mostly plant-based meals, with dishes like black bean vegetarian chili and whole wheat penne pasta with roasted vegetables, achieved reversal of even severe coronary artery disease.
if you have a systemic inflammatory condition (most modern folks do), a low-carb paleo diet is likely the best thing you could possibly do to dial down the fires within and get on the road to healing.
Fraddycat said:I just looked at his website .. it may be non profit but you still have to sign up and pay money. What's the betting he also has a book/TV channel/franchise going on - charlatan.
Fraddycat said:I don't know about the research, all I know is that I had chronic gum disease for many, many years which stopped completely about 8 days after I started low carbing. It has not recurred. It seems to me that this is a significant reduction in inflammation in my body ...
Wikipedia said:Price had shifted his interest to nutrition. In 1939, he published Nutrition and Physical Degeneration,detailing his global travels studying the diets and nutrition of various cultures. The book concludes that aspects of a modern Western diet (particularly flour, sugar, and modern processed vegetable fats) cause nutritional deficiencies that are a cause of many dental issues and health problems.
librarising said:I found this exchange between Taubes, Ornish, and a lady from the American Heart Association quite interesting :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdBDQdOKbJQ
Might help you expand your opinion of these people (for good or ill)
Geoff
Even more striking is the fact that to our knowledge, a low-fat diet has NEVER in dietary clinical trial history produced more weight loss than a calorie unlimited, high fat diet. Many studies have shown no difference, but if it is true that a fat makes you fat, where are the clinical trials supporting this?
Superchip said:It's just the way these grossly overpaid so-called professionals keep their gravy train going till they croak, probably by not taking their opponents advice !
A unheated discussion, could have benn a lot more fun on British TV.
I'll stick with the LCHF routine, I have pretty much existed on it for the last 10 years, 18 years post total heart transplant.
If the machine ain't broke, don't fix it.
GLA smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast !
Superchip, mine's a scotch !
borofergie said:Oh dear, having decided to adopt his low-fat high-carb diet, after last week's article, it turns out that Dean Ornish has being telling fibs. Lots of them:
http://www.awlr.org/1/post/2012/09/resp ... op-ed.html
I especially liked this bit:
Even more striking is the fact that to our knowledge, a low-fat diet has NEVER in dietary clinical trial history produced more weight loss than a calorie unlimited, high fat diet. Many studies have shown no difference, but if it is true that a fat makes you fat, where are the clinical trials supporting this?
In medical school we are taught how to take an HPI (History of present illness) whenever we see a new patient. The importance of this history is stressed in every class, because of how important the patient's story is, and how helpful it can be in coming up with the diagnosis.
Yet when it comes to figuring out why people are gaining weight, we don't listen. We are absolutely sure that the patient is at fault and we are correct: Just Eat less.
We don't listen to the fact that people are universally hungry on a calorie-restricted diet. Eat 500 less calories a day than you normally would, then run for an hour each day, then ignore your most basic physiological drive to eat when you get hungry. And repeat this for the rest of your life and our obesity problems will be solved.
i believe our british-- dr.john briffa would totally disagree with this opinion..borofergie said:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/opinion/sunday/the-optimal-diet.html?ref=opinion
Dean Ornish said:Patients on an Atkins diet in this study showed more than double the level of CRP (C-reactive protein), which is a measure of chronic inflammation and also significantly higher levels of cortisol, a key stress hormone. Both of these increase the risk of heart disease and other chronic diseases. A major research article published recently in the British Medical Journal studied 43,396 Swedish women over 16 years. It concluded that “low carbohydrate-high protein diets ... are associated with increased risk of cardiovascular diseases.” An important article in The New England Journal of Medicine examined data from a study showing that high-protein, low-carb diets promote coronary artery disease even if they don’t increase traditional cardiac risk factors like blood pressure or cholesterol levels. A diet low in fat and high in unrefined carbohydrates caused the least amount of coronary artery blockages, whereas an Atkins-type diet caused the most.
Oh dear. More healthy wholegrains for me then...
..... this goes totally against* our own DR.JOHN BRIFFA who personally i would rely on for the most up to date nutritional advice for wellbeing...borofergie said:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/opinion/sunday/the-optimal-diet.html?ref=opinion
Dean Ornish said:Patients on an Atkins diet in this study showed more than double the level of CRP (C-reactive protein), which is a measure of chronic inflammation and also significantly higher levels of cortisol, a key stress hormone. Both of these increase the risk of heart disease and other chronic diseases. A major research article published recently in the British Medical Journal studied 43,396 Swedish women over 16 years. It concluded that “low carbohydrate-high protein diets ... are associated with increased risk of cardiovascular diseases.” An important article in The New England Journal of Medicine examined data from a study showing that high-protein, low-carb diets promote coronary artery disease even if they don’t increase traditional cardiac risk factors like blood pressure or cholesterol levels. A diet low in fat and high in unrefined carbohydrates caused the least amount of coronary artery blockages, whereas an Atkins-type diet caused the most.
Oh dear. More healthy wholegrains for me then...
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