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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NewdestinyX" data-source="post: 208780" data-attributes="member: 35544">But Kenny - not all calories are created equal. WHAT the calories ARE from- matters in this diet as I read it.Hopefully, Kenny. Testing now DOES matter. Don't fool yourself. Though I think you'd see some pretty great numbers. I agree an OGTT will tell an important story at the end.I've known several people like this from these fora - but they were in the 80% group of people who were obese at dx. The 'skinny diabetics' can't get 'cured' by this diet in my estimation because their communication system between liver and pancreas is too far broken which I believe is really the 'heart' of T2D that unites fat and skinny T2's alike. It explains why skinny T2's are possible. If fat were the smoking gun in T2 - then all fat people would have diabetes. Clearly that's not the main cause of T2. Only 20% of the worlds obese people have or will ever get T2. There's a genetic piece here. And that means that this diet will never really provide a real CURE - which would mean you'd be able to be any weight, eat anything you want and not have T2 symptoms anymore.You helped your condition along WITH that eating lifestyle - but you didn't CAUSE it. That's an oversimplification and again doesn't offer anything to understand skinny T2s. 20% of T2s are NOT overweight and never were. That blows out of the water ANY mentality that makes being fat the MAIN CAUSE of T2. It just isn't. It's a COMPLICATOR of a disease already triggered by something other than an overeating lifestyle.Where I believe the 80% group (obese at dx) can go - and achieve as several have -- it to get to a place where WHAT PANCREAS you have LEFT -- can keep up with the NEED of your body. When you clear all the fat out of the way -- no complicating factors exist anymore for the 80% group of T2s. So a weakened pancreas can FUNCTION nearly normally again. Science tells us that pancreatic beta cell REGROWTH happens VERY slowly and likely NEVER returns to normal. ANd by the time you fail an OGTT up to 60% of your beta cell mass is destroyed.. That's a near impossible chasm to overcome. But as long as you're satisfied to only cheat BIG TIME on birthdays and holidays -- and then moderate the rest of  your life -- I think one can be 'functionally cured'. I call this - "remission" of the T2 by lifestyle change. But this diet offers a new variable we haven't had before. Let's see what it brings - Kenny and Patch. I'm SOOO with you. But I have a 'level head' about the expected results.</blockquote>

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