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<blockquote data-quote="NewdestinyX" data-source="post: 209447" data-attributes="member: 35544"><p>To those that have challenged Kenny -- we all need to be more careful we don't punch a man when he's down. Though I may agree with the 'data' you presented to him -- there's something to be said for 'timing'. He's not really 'starting over' because of the one binge or even the 1500 calorie day with the family. This diet doesn't work that way - nor does any. What I will attest to, that I fought for years, was this notion that a 'lifeSTYLE change' is the only lasting thing. This diet has the great potential pitfall of invoking a 'fad' mentality -- quick fix which is simply unsustainable. Even the test subjects were 'locked in a room' together for 8 weeks completely controlled. No potential for off the wagon moments. So most of us will 'fail' this particular diet because we have no 'support system'. </p><p></p><p>In the end I've lost 29.5Kg in 2 years time. It was ALL gradual.. Plateaus - stepping down. The entire journey I've learned to eat moderately -- which I think is even harder than the 'all or nothing approaches' of ultra low carb. Used very little insulin the whole way. But the result is that I've never regained a Kg of the weight and most importantly the WHOLE WAY I approach food is different now. And for me it's a personal victory that I haven't had to use the very restrictive methodology of the <50g of carbs a day folks. You can achieve the exact same BG level control/A1c results as they do without living that horribly depriving eating style (my opinion that it's "depriving"). </p><p></p><p>So Kenny - you've started a GREAT 'gradual' journey. But I think it would be more 'emotionally healthy' for you to not believe in this notion of 'a cure'. It doesn't exist - not in this diet and not any time soon. You CAN however believe in 'remission'.. As the less fat around liver and pancreas will help then to work better for you and the more weight you lose the less muscle-insulin resistant you will become and the numbers should go back to normal long about the time you reach your perfect BMI.. But most of these weight plans for guys as big as we are/were take 1-5 years to accomplish. It took us even LONGER than that to get this big. So it takes a LONG time to get rid of it. Make sure you take up a doable sport for you. For any of us cycling is a very easy one on the body frame and lots of fun. I don't if the weather in the UK (if that's where you live) is a nice as the mid Atlantic region of the US in the spring, summer and fall but it's HEALING for me. And has been integral to my success. </p><p></p><p>So hang in there, Kenny..</p><p></p><p>And though I'm no moderator -- can I 'plead' with people to not jump in with "poor baby, your problem's in your head", kinds of comments so quickly after an 'off the wagon' moment? Though the 'info' you share is potentially accurate and your giving it with the best of intentions -- the timing is poor in my estimation.. When I read the last few comments I just put my head in my hands thinking --- "O please......."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NewdestinyX, post: 209447, member: 35544"] To those that have challenged Kenny -- we all need to be more careful we don't punch a man when he's down. Though I may agree with the 'data' you presented to him -- there's something to be said for 'timing'. He's not really 'starting over' because of the one binge or even the 1500 calorie day with the family. This diet doesn't work that way - nor does any. What I will attest to, that I fought for years, was this notion that a 'lifeSTYLE change' is the only lasting thing. This diet has the great potential pitfall of invoking a 'fad' mentality -- quick fix which is simply unsustainable. Even the test subjects were 'locked in a room' together for 8 weeks completely controlled. No potential for off the wagon moments. So most of us will 'fail' this particular diet because we have no 'support system'. In the end I've lost 29.5Kg in 2 years time. It was ALL gradual.. Plateaus - stepping down. The entire journey I've learned to eat moderately -- which I think is even harder than the 'all or nothing approaches' of ultra low carb. Used very little insulin the whole way. But the result is that I've never regained a Kg of the weight and most importantly the WHOLE WAY I approach food is different now. And for me it's a personal victory that I haven't had to use the very restrictive methodology of the <50g of carbs a day folks. You can achieve the exact same BG level control/A1c results as they do without living that horribly depriving eating style (my opinion that it's "depriving"). So Kenny - you've started a GREAT 'gradual' journey. But I think it would be more 'emotionally healthy' for you to not believe in this notion of 'a cure'. It doesn't exist - not in this diet and not any time soon. You CAN however believe in 'remission'.. As the less fat around liver and pancreas will help then to work better for you and the more weight you lose the less muscle-insulin resistant you will become and the numbers should go back to normal long about the time you reach your perfect BMI.. But most of these weight plans for guys as big as we are/were take 1-5 years to accomplish. It took us even LONGER than that to get this big. So it takes a LONG time to get rid of it. Make sure you take up a doable sport for you. For any of us cycling is a very easy one on the body frame and lots of fun. I don't if the weather in the UK (if that's where you live) is a nice as the mid Atlantic region of the US in the spring, summer and fall but it's HEALING for me. And has been integral to my success. So hang in there, Kenny.. And though I'm no moderator -- can I 'plead' with people to not jump in with "poor baby, your problem's in your head", kinds of comments so quickly after an 'off the wagon' moment? Though the 'info' you share is potentially accurate and your giving it with the best of intentions -- the timing is poor in my estimation.. When I read the last few comments I just put my head in my hands thinking --- "O please......." [/QUOTE]
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