Good point Grazer.
I think they meant carbs=bread, potatoes,rice,pasta.
They did emphasise that sugars and starches were all carbs, but also seemed to be saying that there were 'good' carbs and 'bad' carbs.
The 'starchy carbs' - bread, potatoes, rice and pasta, were the 'good' ones.
I found it all rather convoluted with very little logic applied. But I didnt think it was my place to interfere too much.
Incidentally, there were 8 of us newly diagnosed there, and 4 of us had several close relatives who are type 2. I found that interesting. And most were not obese either.