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<blockquote data-quote="kitedoc" data-source="post: 1935757" data-attributes="member: 468714"><p>One difficulty which I picked up from a review of low carb/high fat diet vs low fat diets is low carb/high fat diet can have different definitions: such as <120 g carbs per day vs say, < 40g carbs per day. I stick at present nearer the 100 g carbs /day.</p><p>But any banding together to form say, a low carb/high fat coalition, needs to account for possible differences of benefit vs little benefit within those gradations. nbci.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5959976/</p><p>Add to that that I have not seen any factoring in of the difference in gut biome between individuals and groups of individuals on various diets. As basic research of non-diabetic individuals has shown BSL responses to various foods varies greatly depending on gut biome.wis-wander.weisman.ac.il/../life-sciences/blood-sugar-levels-response-foods-are-highly-individual?</p><p>I am intolerant to cow's milk protein so whilst I can order a cappuccino with soy, at a Xmas luncheon I have to pick out the cheese and tend to avoid the bread - unless someone has gone to the trouble and expense to use goat's cheese or buffalo mozzarella. And I am a little dismayed at the so-called advantages of vegan diets as one risks developing vitamin B 12 deficiency over time un less the vegan includes a pharmaceutical sources of B12 in is/her diet..</p><p>Until the research is clearer and more data is available any coalition of diets for diabetes management may not be on firm enough footing - just my thoughts - as the current research talks about the reported difficulty of staying on low carb/high fat diets for long periods of time and that weight loss by any diet is the common denominator in any successful diet for diabetes.</p><p>Please do not shoot the messenger - I am still trying to find clear research results from DDM's low carb high fat program for example, beyond the rhetoric.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kitedoc, post: 1935757, member: 468714"] One difficulty which I picked up from a review of low carb/high fat diet vs low fat diets is low carb/high fat diet can have different definitions: such as <120 g carbs per day vs say, < 40g carbs per day. I stick at present nearer the 100 g carbs /day. But any banding together to form say, a low carb/high fat coalition, needs to account for possible differences of benefit vs little benefit within those gradations. nbci.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5959976/ Add to that that I have not seen any factoring in of the difference in gut biome between individuals and groups of individuals on various diets. As basic research of non-diabetic individuals has shown BSL responses to various foods varies greatly depending on gut biome.wis-wander.weisman.ac.il/../life-sciences/blood-sugar-levels-response-foods-are-highly-individual? I am intolerant to cow's milk protein so whilst I can order a cappuccino with soy, at a Xmas luncheon I have to pick out the cheese and tend to avoid the bread - unless someone has gone to the trouble and expense to use goat's cheese or buffalo mozzarella. And I am a little dismayed at the so-called advantages of vegan diets as one risks developing vitamin B 12 deficiency over time un less the vegan includes a pharmaceutical sources of B12 in is/her diet.. Until the research is clearer and more data is available any coalition of diets for diabetes management may not be on firm enough footing - just my thoughts - as the current research talks about the reported difficulty of staying on low carb/high fat diets for long periods of time and that weight loss by any diet is the common denominator in any successful diet for diabetes. Please do not shoot the messenger - I am still trying to find clear research results from DDM's low carb high fat program for example, beyond the rhetoric. [/QUOTE]
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