Diabetes or pre-diabetes?

ZJXZZN

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Type of diabetes
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Hello everyone,I am new and very happy to find this community and I need some help to clarify my confusions.

The followings are my husband basic conditions:

29/01/18:FBS:7.9
05/02/18: GLUCOSE TOLERANCE TEST
FBS:8.1
1 HOUR:21.2
2 HOUR:18.4

08/02/18
HBA1C:6.8
Random BS:7.5---measured by the nurse in the Medical Centre

08/02/18 The doctor prescribed DIABEX XR 500mg per day with dinner
Did not eat DIABEX XR until 17/02/18 and contiuned eating for 10days,then stopped several days,and start to continue eating,up to now(13/3/18) have eaten 20 tablets.

We only tested twice by ourselves:

07/3/18---9.4 two hours after lunch

13/3/18---5.6 FBS

From end of January,we started to eat Low Carb food and stopped rice and flour totally from 24/02/18.

Exercises:30-40m swimming,5km walk after dinner every day from the beginning of Feb.


So,I confused in a very short time ,my husband reached the normal BS with little medicine dose,so he is not diabetes and he is pre-diabetes?

I need your opinions to clarify my confusion,many thanks for your help in advance!
 

rom35

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
My opinion is he has diabetes. See the OGTT test - here in czech rep. when you start the OGTT with >7.0, test is cancelled and you are diagnosed as diabetic. But he is the lucky one, the insulin resistance with function of pancreas and help of the metformin is good enough to compensate together with lowerring carbs and excercise. But to be perfectly sure he has to count the carbs and do for some time 3 measurements for each meal - before, 1h and 2h after. See the limits on main page.

Contact @daisy1 fro first instructions.
 
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Bluetit1802

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Hello and welcome,

You seem to be doing the right things, but I don't believe he has beaten this disease yet I'm sorry to say.

Your husband was diagnosed with diabetes in January with a very high oral glucose tolerance test, showing he is diabetic. His HbA1c shows he is diabetic. The reading you took 2 hours after food is high. The only level you have mentioned that is in the normal range is the fasting one of 5.6 on 13th March. That one single good result doesn't mean his diabetes has gone. It doesn't disappear quite so quickly or easily I'm afraid. He needs another HbA1c test 3 months after the first one and that will give you a clue.

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html

I am tagging @daisy1 who has useful information for the newly diagnosed.
 
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Brunneria

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Here in the UK, the result of that glucose tolerance test indicates diabetes, and since the nurse confirmed that by giving a diagnosis, I would accept that as a fact.

It is certainly true that many type 2 diabetics can control their blood glucose, often to non-diabetic levels, using diet and lifestyle choices. Some need medication too. But that doesn't mean we are not diabetics. If we return to eating carbohydrate heavy foods, then our blood glucose rises to diabetic levels again.

If we can achieve nice low blood glucose, then I think of it as being a well controlled type 2.
 

ZJXZZN

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
My opinion is he has diabetes. See the OGTT test - here in czech rep. when you start the OGTT with >7.0, test is cancelled and you are diagnosed as diabetic. But he is the lucky one, the insulin resistance with function of pancreas and help of the metformin is good enough to compensate together with lowerring carbs and excercise. But to be perfectly sure he has to count the carbs and do for some time 3 measurements for each meal - before, 1h and 2h after. See the limits on main page.

Contact @daisy1 fro first instructions.
many thanks for help.
 

daisy1

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@ZJX22N

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

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