Diabetes Reduction

[Liam E]

Pure Traditions Keto Oatmeal. 2 net carbs and doesn’t raise my BG after testing. I put in 1 Stevia and 8-10 Blueberries. Love it.

I’ve tried other oatmeal and my BG doesn’t like them.

Yeah it is calling it "oatmeal" that makes it an oxymoron, as oats simply cannot be keto. It would better be called a mixed nut porridge... but that doesn't sound so nice.

I would say though that isn't something I'd be eating everyday. I treat nuts as a treat, not a staple. The almonds in it for instance are very high in oxalate which are hard on the kidneys, which is something we need to keep on eye on.

 

[Firefly1]

Yeah it is calling it "oatmeal" that makes it an oxymoron, as oats simply cannot be keto. It would better be called a mixed nut porridge... but that doesn't sound so nice.

I would say though that isn't something I'd be eating everyday. I treat nuts as a treat, not a staple. The almonds in it for instance are very high in oxalate which are hard on the kidneys, which is something we need to keep on eye on.

I eat it every other 2-3 days. Kidney tests so far are perfect. But I’m ok with calling it porridge. I tried the steel cut oats and nope, body didn’t like it.

 

[Deleted member 475901]

As a new T2 I drastically changed my diet and got back down to a normal HbA1c by my 3 month check ( although I still had a bigger than desirable dawn spike for another month).
The only downside was mild keto flu for a few days.

 

[Z_e_u_s]

^^^This. I reduced my numbers too fast and now I’m suffering from Treatment Induced Neuropathy for the past 6 months. A1c from 12.5 to 8.1 in 6-7 weeks.

Same thing happened to me
If I could go back I would take a different approach to reducing glucose levels too quickly as now unless I take ALA I can't cope; I have tried stopping taking it a few times over the last few years but it's too painful so always go back to it ;(

 

[0110]

Same thing happened to me
If I could go back I would take a different approach to reducing glucose levels too quickly as now unless I take ALA I can't cope; I have tried stopping taking it a few times over the last few years but it's too painful so always go back to it ;(

 

[0110]

What approach would you have taken then? I've gone full steam ahead, Would you have not reduced your food intake as much?

Thing is no one tells you this, I went to see a consulatant in private hospital yesterday, he didnt memtion anything and he knows about my drastic changes...

 

[Liam E]

What approach would you have taken then? I've gone full steam ahead, Would you have not reduced your food intake as much?

Thing is no one tells you this, I went to see a consulatant in private hospital yesterday, he didnt memtion anything and he knows about my drastic changes...

It is about reduction of carb intake rather than food intake.

I can only speak from personal experience in that I reduced to 120g carbs a day for a month, 100 for a few weeks, 80 for a few weeks more then 60. In all I reduced for 3 months before going sub 50g a day. Mainly because I felt it would be easier like that but also because I am a gripwad and wanted to use up everything in the cupboards.

For the record I had no issues at all doing it like that but of course your mileage may vary.

 

[Prince4]

Same as me mate sugars down from 11 to 12 range to 5 to 7 in 6 in 7 weeks. Random tingling and flare ups why does this happen I've not read up on it ye

I’m pretty sure I’ve fallen into that trap. Went for it full speed and had sugars down from 15/16 range to the 5/6/7 range in 10 days or so. My nervous system is now super sensitised - tingling in my feet where there was none before, some random pain in the arms and a costochondritis flare up that seems an odd coincidence.

Hoping it stays at the level it is now and doesn’t progress further. Pleased to read your comment about it normally resolving in time!

I had this very thing. 96 - 65 in about 3 months. Exact same symptoms, very scary.

 

[0110]

I had this very thing. 96 - 65 in about 3 months. Exact same symptoms, very scary.

You still get the symptoms?

 

[teedee501]

Well done on reducing from 79 to 62 in 6 weeks. In six weeks I reduced mine from 82 to 68. I think you could be in remission earlier than Christmas, why do you think XMAS?

Also "don't try to lower things too fast as this can lead to complications. A target of Christmas to gradually lower your hba1c is a great target"

Is that really the case? I am at it full steam is that the wrong approach?

After talking to a nutritionist and dietician from Diabetes UK I was advised to make certain diet changes immediately and some to be sustainable in the long term and not try to rush things , which is what I’ve done but I’ve also got knee problems that require a new knee but my knee consultant won’t put me forward for operation until I lost 3 stones, so while my diabetes control is important my main goal is to lose the weight so I can get my much needed operation. I’ve currently lost 2st 8 pounds which alongside my metformin and very healthy diet is the reason my blood sugar is now down to 48 and my doctor has said I can stop taking the metformin.
Small steps big goals !

 

[Prince4]

You still get the symptoms?

Yes, as I suspect that I have lowered further over the last 4 weeks based on my continuous blood readings. They tell me that the last 30 days have tracked round 42 ( I know this is not accurate). I saw a Neurologist who said this will last around 6 months....Having said that I stopped taking Metformin 30 days ago, so I will see if this has hampered the reduction.

 

[Firefly1]

Yes, as I suspect that I have lowered further over the last 4 weeks based on my continuous blood readings. They tell me that the last 30 days have tracked round 42 ( I know this is not accurate). I saw a Neurologist who said this will last around 6 months....Having said that I stopped taking Metformin 30 days ago, so I will see if this has hampered the reduction.

6 months seems to be the average for some. I’m on month 9. It’s almost gone but not quite. Feet are still very sensitive to carpet and socks. It’s like all new nerves and they’re learning.

 

[0110]

Good to know it goes, thank u for the information forum members. This place for me has been a god send and no way will I been in remission if I didn't learn from these guys. I was lost and got zero support from NHS.

Tbf I hardly notice my sensitive feet etc.. Does anyone get feelings in there head? I do. Same feelings in legs but less obvious in the skull area.

 

[Firefly1]

Good to know it goes, thank u for the information forum members. This place for me has been a god send and no way will I been in remission if I didn't learn from these guys. I was lost and got zero support from NHS.

Tbf I hardly notice my sensitive feet etc.. Does anyone get feelings in their head? I do. Same feelings in legs but less obvious in the skull area.

I think when you lower a1c quickly, your body goes into some sort of shock. The nerves are not happy with that reduction over the short term. And short term in relation to nerves are months and perhaps a year from what I’ve read. My eyes, feet and bowel movements all changed. I also believe TIND is fairly common and misdiagnosed as regular DPN which it is not.