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Diabetes snobbery

I need a 'love' button to click. So sending hugs, xxx
 



Which is why I never ever tell anyone about my personal medical situation. It's really unfortunate that you had to be attacked like this from some clueless friend, let alone a stranger. I'd tell them to F**k off politely.
 

There was a time in my life when I was very fit, muscular and trained in violence. I never used that violence and I normally am very glad about that. Sometimes, however...

Anyway I've sent a hug, which doesn't really cover it
 

Welcome to the forum.

You are doing the right thing, tackling it with diet and lifestyle and also taking the medication you need. I hope it only gets better and you can reduce the medication. If not, then I hope you will take the medication with no sense of failure and enjoy life! This is probably the best place on Earth to get help tackling the problem, it may be worth starting a thread and posting something similar to what you just have, people will give you a ton of advice.
 
I’m sorry to hear of the distress caused by ‘diabetic snobbery’ and a number of very good points have been made in this thread. I’m Type 2 myself, but have come accross a number of type 1’s in the outreach work that I do and have consequently got a great deal of sympathy for the plight of people suffering this devestating disease, through no fault of their own.

Am I at fault for my Type 2? Its comforting to hear that its a hormonal problem that might have caused my apex weight of 21stone and that my exessive abuse of food and drink over many years had nothing to do with it! Neither did my avoidence of exercise or my fondness for late night ice cream...

I have adopted a LCHF lifestyle over the last two years, weight down to 15 stone, HBA1c of 42 (from 92) and an hour’s brisk exercise every day. Its a hard, if rewarding, slog at times and I comfort myself with the thought that I am taking back control of my own destiny.

Part of my motivation to persevere with the changes is to accept that I have been very negligent of my own wellbeing in the past and that seems to keep me going. I am responsible for my predicament and especially my weight but I now know that things could have been very different had I taken this kind of action much earlier..

And I understand the prejudice against obesity as I have a big problem with it and me! People behaving badly is very much par for the course, but you seem to be taking action to combat this disease and that is by far the most important thing here!
 

I just wanted to quote that because I thought it was really nice.

I think I'm going to stop posting in this thread, because it's all getting a bit blurred. My posts defending people with T2 against judgmentalism have absolutely nothing to do with comparing T1 and T2. They have nothing to do with T1 at all in fact, and may only help to fuel polarisation which is totally unwarranted. I think I'm right to be angry, but not in this thread!
 
Yes I am leaving the thread too. Not feeling that folks really understand the issue even here in this forum. I'm feeling quite depressed about it as well, I need a rest.
 
I am pleased for you.

However, I and many others did not abuse food and drink, did not avoid exercise or binge on ice cream, yet we are still fat and still type 2 diabetics.

As with so many things, we are all different, and all deserving of respect and support, not condemnation or judgement.
 

Even though you are judging yourself, I won't judge you for that as I know that sometimes overeating can be caused by depression or filling an emotional void with food. I don't believe you decided one day to let things slide and become a lazy fatty. No-one does that. Maybe you just didn't value yourself enough to care. All of your life experiences and any physical/mental issues (even those you aren't aware of) will have led to this. My husband eats excessively .... I don't, yet he is the slim one. So why should you blame yourself when there are many people who have your old lifestyle and they just don't get fat?
 
I’m fat and Type 1.

I used to be thin and Type 1.

I occasionally get the sneers from someone who wrongly thinks I’m diabetic because I’m fat, and that it’s any of their business, and that their opinion is of any interest or value.

I’m diabetic because of an injury on active duty with the UN in Bosnia back in 95.


That shuts them up with their whining about tax money.


Regardless, the best response to any shaming or put down is an aggressive one. Tell them to shut their mouth. Don’t be polite about it. The polite button was disengaged when they started yapping.
 
What about those of us who are and have always been slim but have type 2. I had a strong family history. Is this self imposed? I'll add that I'm also fed up that it seems to be purely associated with obesity - it's not. Rant over!
 

There's a saying that, I feel, might be appropriate here. It mentions empty vessels and noise. There's another one you might like to think about too - it simply states that still waters run deep. Apply these as you see fit, to those who talk about diabetes.
 
I know your frustration. As a new T1 when I was 12, I was pulled into my counselor's office and told to keep quiet about my diabetes because people saw it as a character flaw. Seriously.
There are some who will never experience T1 or T2, no matter how much they eat or how little they exercise. My mother was one of those at 250 lbs and 5 feet flat. There are some who no matter how fit or active they are will face T1 or T2. Genetics are funny like that.
But comparing miseries? Mine is worse than yours? That's bunk, and the person that said that should feel great shame. Unfortunately, here in the States that same idiotic belief prevails: Mick Mulvaney, who is Trump's budget director, said that he felt diabetics shouldn't be able to get health insurance because they just sit around and eat poorly. (https://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/blog/diabetes-discrimination-mick-mulvaney/)
Sigh.
 

Just ask how they explain Steve Redgrave.
 
pjs said:
I'll add that I'm also fed up that it seems to be purely associated with obesity
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I agree.

I am also fed up that it is even associated with obesity, as in it being seen as a consequence of obesity, instead of people understanding that obesity is, for some, a symptom of diabetes, not a cause at all. A fact which some, even on this forum, seem to still not grasp.
 

Men?
I read this earlier with disbelief thinking you could be wearing a size 24 I don't wear womens clothes so am guessing it's a larger size or whatever and what business is it of a passer by to comment, and 2 blokes doing that to any lass, t1, t2, plain Jane, k9 or whatever in any shape or form are just low life bullies, nowt more and nowt less.

Replies such as 'why not save those few brain cells for breathing with mate, it'd save the dribble on your chin' often work in those situations...
 
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Mel dCP said:
I have a little insight into the social stigma
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How awful that you experienced such cruel words from those two men. My heart goes out to you and anyone who is subjected to this type of abuse.
 
This douchebaggery is really awful because could have consequences
http://torino.corriere.it/cronaca/1...io-937e9256-38ab-11e8-88e7-5b815ecb2975.shtml
https://www.ilmessaggero.it/primopiano/cronaca/beatrice_ingui_treno_torino_suicidio-3650319.html

I'll translate the most important paragraphs.
Fat shaming could kill, especially teens, especially when other teens starts to mock and bully.
 

To my mind this isn't a T1 superiority thing, there's been plenty of examples of this kind of behaviour between T1's... Some people are just like that and inevitably some will be T1, T2, MODY, LADA etc so they will appear on these forums. Fortunately, we notice them because they are rare, the vast majority here are reasonable, considerate, compassionate, caring people - but we don't notice them...
 
When I originally posted, I thought the problem was just an odd incident and more likely to be the individual having a bad day.

I did not think the problem was as wide as it appears, there have been some sad stories told, and in telling them they must have opened old wounds.

For those members, I say thank you for sharing your experiences.

Perhaps the industry and the medical profession should encourage an understanding of the types, from when you are first diagnosed - because I must admit and decent hand book about my own Type 2 would have been helpful, along with how it differs from type 1, LADA etc.

What I have learnt from everyone posting is there is still some misunderstanding, and maybe what was written, maybe did not convey the meaning or understanding, the spoken word can convey, and like in life we are all different

Vive la difference
 
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