Diabetic Neuropathy

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AliB

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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

I have been able to reverse my DN by following the low-carb all-natural food course. Mine amounted to awful 'gouty' needle sharp pains in my toes, but that went fairly soon after adopting the better diet.

Not only that but I have also been able to reduce my meds - metformin and insulin by two thirds of the original dose most days, and get my BG levels down to in or just above normal range. I have also been able to get rid of lots of other health issues too.

There is lots of good food out there - it takes using a bit more ingenuity, but you get in to it after a while. I don't bother with the starchy veg like potatoes, pasta or rice very much at all - maybe a handful of chips if I am out for a meal, but other than that I will just have more of the other veg. Neither I nor my husband (a non-diabetic) eat bread or bought cakes or anything processed.

Last night I had some salmon and a big green salad (lettuce, chinese leaf, celery, grated carrots, walnuts and lemon juice and walnut oil sprinkled over as a dressing) which was delicious.

People are always frightened that they are going to starve if they don't get their starchy carby foods but what I have found is the more nutritious the food I eat, the less my body needs because its nutrient needs are met quite adequately. A lot of the carb-rubbish out there is full of 'empty' calories which spike the blood sugar but give us little or nothing of any value nutritionally.
 
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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

phil

i use livestrong.com to monitor and record all my food and drink intake. They have a function called the daily plate. You record what you eat, I have yet to find anything I eat that it hasn't got a reference for. When you have entered your food it tells you exactly what you have eaten in temrs of carbs and fat and protein and cholestrol etc. Very Very useful to me, as I have other complications and have to watch my cholestrol level. Today, for exampple, I was low on my carbs, (around 37% of my RDA), but at 134% of my Cholestrol RDS.oops :twisted:

I use it to simply tell me which are the healthier (for me) foods that I enjoy, and which i can save for a special occasion, and which I ought to enjoy. From what you have written, this site, or a similar one may help. And if anyone knows a better site, let me know!

The only other thing I would say is, speak to your GP and express your concerns, and if your in a group practice, try all the GPs till you find one that will listen!
 
AliB

AliB

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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

That sounds like a useful site Andy. The only thing I would be doubtful of is the 'cholesterol' thing. The 'Establishment' is still stuck on the 'fat drives cholesterol' myth and the site undoubtedly uses that criteria.

RDA - recommended daily allowance. Recommended by whom exactly?
 
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Bluenosesol

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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

Catherine,

I can only deduce from this that one size does not fit all. As a diabetic with gout, I wouldnt have a clue what is best for me looking at the complexity of the data on offer. I have had experience of mild Peripheral neuropathy and take an over the counter cocktail to relieve or stop progress (ALA/VitC/EPO) and to help with repair I take a balanced Vit B complex which contains proportionate 100% RDA doses for the major elements. (Purchased over the counter Morrision's own Vit-B Complex product). Unlike american colleagues the depth of NHS interest and expertise is not sufficient for complicated assessment of supplements required for diabetic complications, so I am afraid that I will just have to hope that my own attempts to resolve deemed from forum advice will do some good and the ensuing years will prove them to be effective, until such times as the NHS get real and start providing quality support for all aspects of diabetes.

Regards Steve.
 
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Yes B vitamins especially B6 can cause neuropathy as well as relieve it , that is why you should not take more than 50 mg of B6 daily , the more I "research " the clearer ( to me at least ) it becomes that vitamin deficiencies are a major diabetic problem which lead to the three "opathies " if you reduce your BG and have a very good diet you may not need supplements , but if you have a good diet reduce your Bgs and still have neuropathy you need to supplement in some way . "Pain killers " are OK but don't tackle the underlying problem
 
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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

Just returned from my Dr after explaining to him the electric shock pains in my left thigh. He checked my BG figures and is very happy with the control I have and the reductions I am getting.
He examined me and said that maybe I have a trapped nerve in my spine (I was suprised because he is a diabetic Dr)
To cut a long story short he arranged for an eye examination(Due to my blurred vision) and also a visit to the Orthapedic clinic.
He prescribed...Omeprazole 40mg, Lornoxicam 8mg, Diclofenic solution and Neurobion 3ml injections (Viamin b supplement)
I explained to him the various Web sites and forums I have visited to gain extra knowledge and his reply was.....Yes but they arn`t Doctors...... ARGHHH
His parting comment was....you are doing so well at reducing your levels that we may be able to take you off the medications for Diabetis.
Seriously confused now!!!!!
I asked for more test strips but was refused as he can only give them when prescibing my bi-monthly medications. Fortunately I managed to get another free meter, with strips from my friendly chemist who has to inject me, in the butt, with the Neurobion.

Allan
 
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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

Good news then! Not sure about coming off all of your Diabetic medications but if your body can cope alone you are lucky.
 
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iriawan

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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

Hi Phill...


I have information on how to deal with diabetic neuropathy, this may be a little help you

Although there is currently no known treatment for diabetic neuropathy, there are things that can be done, manage to slow the progression of the disease, relieve pain, complications and even restore function.

Because high blood sugar are the main cause of the neuropathy, the emphasis in treatment and prevention of diabetic neuropathy to maintain blood glucose within a narrow range. It is also important to keep your blood pressure under control. This can help slow the progression of peripheral neuropathy and can lead to an improvement in existing symptoms.

A healthy lifestyle is also very important for diabetic neuropathy to prevent or slow progression. This is part of a healthy diet, get plenty of exercise, maintain a healthy weight and avoiding alcohol and smoking completely. The cheapest form of exercise for people with neuropathy is a low-impact exercise to prevent damage. A good coach is to end this cycle of Glide, the workout is a great offer virtually no effect.

An important step in investigating the treatment of diabetic neuropathy has been the discovery of what may be alpha-lipoic acid. The alpha-lipoic acid is a powerful antioxidant found naturally in small quantities in foods such as spinach, broccoli, beef, yeast, kidney and heart. It is also used to supplement, but those who have completed the purchase Alpa lipoic acid, to make sure that is what they get is stabilized R-Lipoic want.
 
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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

a healthy lifestyle is very important , but to rebuild the myelin sheaths which are trahse dby high BG you need to think about vitamin B supplements , Neurobion 3ml injections (Viamin b supplement) which was mentioned in an earlier post contains the 3 B vitamins ( B1 , B6 and B12 ) that have "cured" my neuropathy , does anyone know if this injectable Bi form is available in the UK ?
 
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creative

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Re: Diabetic Nuropathy

Hi Soundgen,

I don`t know if Neurobion injection is available in the uk, but, for some idea here in Greece no prescription is needed, its an over the counter product, you can either inject yourself or get the chemist or hospital to do it (free of charge).
6 ampules plus 6 syringes 4 Euro.
After just two injections the pain in my left thigh has reduced a great deal. Ok it may be the Neurobion or a combination of the other drugs ( Lornoxicam and Diclofenic oil) but something is working.

Allan
 
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smithmaria61

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Hello,
I think hating your diabetes is the best thing you can do because if you focus that strong emotion into motivation it will help you to control it - and that is obviously what is happening because the improvement in your statistics confirms it. If you listen to all those 'well-meaning' folk who tell you to tolerate it, then the most likely scenario is that you'll fail to control your blood glucose levels and, as a consequence, you'll end up with all manner of nasty complications. Keep up the good work. Don't be afraid to be angry - hate it, and channel that emotion. the long term complications of diabetes are caused by running toxicological high blood sugar levels. However, you give no information about your numbers or your diet or what treatment/medication you are using to manage your diabetes.
 
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Hi Phil

Ive had Raynauds and Neuralgia (nerve damage) for years, its the diabetes thats new to me. I can tell you that rauynauds is incurable and progressive, but can be managed. And the treatment doesnt clash with the diabetes meds. Do take the nifedipine - its better to control the circulation that to lose extremities. Something Raynauds and Diabetes share unfortunately. (But youre lucky - I have Hypothyroid too - triple whammy lol)

Im also on a good dose of gabepanten for the nerve damage, but taken regularly, it seems to help. Regular pain killers wont help nerve pain. The best advice about that one, if you miss a dose, its like starting from zero and building up your levels again,it must be kept up to maintain it.

since Raynauds is Auto Immune, its possible to have LADA - or type 1.5 diabetes. If you keep struggling with your levels, its worth asking for this specific test
 
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Been suffering massively with neuropathy for the last 4 months I've tried amytriptyline it did nothing am now on gabapentin and have gotten worse but have to stay the coarse. as for getting bg down this is what is being blamed for my neuropathy my bg went down to quick and have been told to get it up to and keep it at 10 but can't seem to do it
 
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Hello Ham

Just a thought but have you been tried on CZ (Tegretol) at all?

A friend told me that this works fairly well although did make a bit dopey so could only take 1 tablet.

Also if you are troubled by burning feet like my friend you could try putting a portable table top fan blowing cold air towards the bottom of your bed which helps no end. My friend has one on for about 2hrs (on a cheap timer switch) which enables them to get off to sleep.

A hot water bottle filled up with cold water and put in fridge for a while is usefull to rest feet on when sitting down.

Someone on the forum also mentioned Sunburn spray that contains Lidnocaine works well too.
 
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