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diagnosd 2 weeks ago

kouger27

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi. Im in my mid 40s and have just been diagnosed as type 2, I dont know the numbers from my blood test yet but im sure i will find out when i meet the diabetic nurse next week, but my gp started me on metformin 500g twice daily for starters. I shoulda known id end up with diabetes as my dad has it and also was diagnosed at roughly the same age. I stopped smoking around 6yrs ago and since then i have slowly but surely been eating more in the way of snacks. Ontop of my less than healthy diet, i am also paralysed from the shoulders down, so i cannot exercise to lose the weight. I dont mind having to change my diet to a healthier one but everywhere i look for information it tells me somthing different. I have porridge with raspberries for breakfast (catbs and sugar) , usually soup or sandwich for lunch (seeded wholegrain bread, but still carbs) , for dinner i have whatever the family is having but a smaller portion and no dessert unless its a yogurt. Id eat more fruit but its more sugar?? Ive been getting my bloods checked every morning before breakfast and at night 2 hours after dinner, the readings are slowly coming down, from the low 20s when diagnosed, down to 9.6 this morning. Dunno how fast or slow they should come down but im already feeling better than i did a fortnight ago, no more dry sticky mouth, endless thirst or 3x as many potty pitstops, so must be doing somthing right. Well, ive introduced myself and now im off to have a bag of crisps that are baked, not fried and made from lentils instead of potatoes.

Iain
 
Hello and welcome @kouger27 I'm tagging @daisy1 for you who will be along shortly with some great information for you including a link to the site's low carb programme. Have a good read of that and then ask any questions that you may have. Can I also recommend this site linked below? which gives information on the low carbohydrate healthy fat diet which many of the members on here follow. The best thing that you can do for yourself is to follow a low carb diet. Good luck!

www.dietdoctor.com
 
Hi @kouger27 and welcome.

Firstly, and this is important, when you see your nurse next week ask her for a print out of your blood test results (if you are in England you could also ask if your surgery puts test results on line as they are supposed to do, and how to register for this). You need to know where you are starting from, and as you will be having regular blood tests from now on you need to be able to compare them to see if you are improving. It isn't just the blood glucose ones you need, it is also cholesterol and lipids, kidney and liver functions and full blood counts.

I see you already have a meter, which is excellent. You need it to teach you which foods your body can cope with. Instead of the morning before breakfast and 2 hours after dinner tests, you need to test immediately before each meal and 2 hours after first bite. It is helpful to keep a food diary including portion sizes and record your levels alongside. The aim is to keep any rise from before to after under 2mmol/l. More than that and there are too many carbs in that meal that need eliminating or reducing in portion size. This is all trial and error, but soon patterns will emerge and you will have a better idea of what you can or can't cope with.

Another thing I noticed is your choice of baked crisps! OK, crisps are not good in any form, but the fat content is better than no fat content. Full fat products are better than low fat products. Not only do they taste better, but they are better for us. By the way, lentils and other pulses are also carby! It is a steep learning curve, but once you learn to check nutrition labels for the total carb content and keep that down, you will get there.

Read round and ask questions. Good luck on your journey.
 
Hi Iain and welcome! Pork scratchings are a good carb free alternative to crisps :hungry:
 
Thanks for all the tips. Will go into my meeting with the diabetic nurse armed with better questions to ask. As for my mid afternoon snack, guess i will go back to having fruit - unless that affects my blood sugars.
 
Hi @kouger27 .. and welcome
You have certainly made a good move coming here. Since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

The key point to take on board now is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your blood glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @13lizanne has already tagged @ daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the valuable information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

It seems that you are already testing but, if not, it is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £29.49
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £58.98
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
 
Hello there and welcome to the group. I am a wheelchair user and unable to excercise but have still lowered my blood glucose levels. Do not get hung up on excercise as for us the dietary advice is the only advice that applies, we cannot lower bg quite as fast as able bodied T2s but with some simple changes we can achieve the same results.
 
Frankly, what is surprising me (now I've got my head round no, or very low, carbs) is just how much tasty stuff I can eat. I'm still at a very early stage but have been inspired by folk's achievements on here and greatly helped by their encouragement and knowledge. Sounds like you've made some good progress already Iain - well done.
 
@kouger27

Hello Iain and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope it will be useful to you. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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