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Gemmaxo

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Hi

So I'm getting really confused, I have been tested for diabetes many a time now, but am still struggling with the symptoms of low blood sugar, even when it isn't always incredibly low, and even sometimes WITH low blood sugar readings.

I've tried to keep a track on them pre and post meals etc but I'm not doing very well and keep forgetting.

I was wondering if anyone had any experience of how they we diagnosed and what the regular readings should be anyway?

For example the other day my b/s were

Pp+2 hours = 8.2mmol/L
+4 hours = 4.5 mmol/L

Later on

+30 mins Post food = 7.3 mmol/L

+1 hour PP = 6.8 mmol/L

+ 2 hours PP = 5.4 mmol/L

+ 3 hours PP = 4.6 mmol/L

But I've head readings on days that were not as stable as this one, going up between 10.6 - 8.1 to 4.8 - 4.2


The highest I think that I've had is 11.2 Ish and lowest is 3.8 and occasionally it coming up with LO, which I presume could have been a fault with the strips or the blood testing glucose monitor.

Altogether these readings seems okai and quite stable, but then the rest of the time when I have hypos and LO b/s etc, or other diabetic symptoms, it confuses me immensely.

I'm going to do a full day blood sugar testing day today if I can remember!

Thanks in advance

TIA


For a while it seemed like I was getting Hypos pretty much straight away after eating.

I wondered if this was or is or even meant reactive Hypoglycemia?

I am just trying to figure this all out so that I can just feel better. From all of this constant shakiness and tiredness etc etc.Screenshot_20200225_082911_com.futuretech.diabetes.logs.jpg
 
@Gemmaxo none of the numbers you have listed here are hypo levels.

What does your doctor say?
 
Diakat said:
@Gemmaxo none of the numbers you have listed here are hypo levels.

What does your doctor say?
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I was told by 111 that below 4.0 was low, and I've had them go down to 3.8 and lower such as the Lo which I'm still not sure if it is inacurrate or not.

I was once taken to hospital with low blood sugar and given oral glucose meany years back and we've just never managed to figure it out.
 
Gemmaxo said:
Hi

So I'm getting really confused, I have been tested for diabetes many a time now, but am still struggling with the symptoms of low blood sugar, even when it isn't always incredibly low, and even sometimes WITH low blood sugar readings.

I've tried to keep a track on them pre and post meals etc but I'm not doing very well and keep forgetting.

I was wondering if anyone had any experience of how they we diagnosed and what the regular readings should be anyway?

For example the other day my b/s were

Pp+2 hours = 8.2mmol/L
+4 hours = 4.5 mmol/L

Later on

+30 mins Post food = 7.3 mmol/L

+1 hour PP = 6.8 mmol/L

+ 2 hours PP = 5.4 mmol/L

+ 3 hours PP = 4.6 mmol/L

But I've head readings on days that were not as stable as this one, going up between 10.6 - 8.1 to 4.8 - 4.2


The highest I think that I've had is 11.2 Ish and lowest is 3.8 and occasionally it coming up with LO, which I presume could have been a fault with the strips or the blood testing glucose monitor.

Altogether these readings seems okai and quite stable, but then the rest of the time when I have hypos and LO b/s etc, or other diabetic symptoms, it confuses me immensely.

I'm going to do a full day blood sugar testing day today if I can remember!

Thanks in advance

TIA


For a while it seemed like I was getting Hypos pretty much straight away after eating.

I wondered if this was or is or even meant reactive Hypoglycemia?

I am just trying to figure this all out so that I can just feel better. From all of this constant shakiness and tiredness etc etc.View attachment 38926
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Low bloodsugars are not a diabetic symptom. People think it is because people who use medication like Gliclazide or require insulin can get them, but it's not something a diabetic just gets. What you're describing, your machine actually spitting up a LO after eating, sounds more like reactive hypoglycemia. If that is the case, your pancreas pumps out too much insulin when you have carbs. It overreacts and then you go low. Mind you, RH's can develop T2 later as they tend to have so much insulin floating around they become insensitive to it. Good news for you: The solution to RH is the same as T2. Cut the carbs. When there is no spike in bloodsugars, there's no overreaction either. You shouldn't be seeing such lows anymore.

( https://josekalsbeek.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-nutritional-thingy.html might help)
 
When you see LO and say you are not sure this is accurate have you washed your hands and retested?
 
I have RH, and the readings you mention are not what I would associate with RH.

one possibility is that your blood glucose is rising and falling quickly, which can sometimes produce feeling of being hypo when the numbers are rapidly changing, even if the highest and lowest numbers aren’t a problem.

regarding some of your numbers being below 4... yes, below 4 should be treated as a hypo (or an incoming hypo) by those on insulin injections or other strong glucose lowering drugs. But for the rest of us, whether we have no diabetes, pre-diabetes, or type 2 diabetes, then numbers even down in the lower 3s are not something for concern. Many people go down that low on a daily basis, with no more than the odd hunger pang.

Obviously, no one here can either diagnose or undiagnose, but what you describe doesn’t match my personal experience of RH.

You mention that you experience the ‘symptoms of low blood glucose’, but you don’t mention what they are.
Unfortunately, there is a varied list of such symptoms, and nearly every symptom can often be a match for other conditions, from low blood pressure to food intolerances.

if you are personally convinced about it being RH, you could try going very low carb (keto) for a few weeks and see if that helps. My own RH hypos are eliminated by eating consistently keto. So were any symptoms caused by rapidly rising and falling blood glucose. However, if your symptoms actually come from a food intolerance, then you could find that you either include or eliminate that food when you move to keto, and that could muddy the water considerably. So I would keep a detailed food, blood glucose and symptom diary, to help you spot what is really going on.

I wish you well with this. It can be a living hell experiencing symptoms and having medical professionals either not listen, or dismiss what you are experiencing, and sometimes getting someone to listen can be like banging your head against a wall.
I really hope you can get to the bottom of it.
 
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