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I'm ******** then, my son didn't sleep through the night until he was 6!
 
So it wasn't being overweight and eating like a pig then? It's my circadian rhythms! Well working nights for 17 years may be the culprit not the food!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
I've had sleep apneao for about 10 years and can't sleep without a CPAP machine but don't think that has anything to do with diabetes. I was told 20 years ago I would develop diabetes eventually as I had pancreatitus and my gaul bladder removed. If you look hard enough you can associate anything with any illness. I think some people are paid too much to form commitees and study groups to come up with anything that folk will listen to. Pity they don't do genuine research on things that matter.
 
Now this is a bit interesting, I have a predisposition to SAD which involves a disruption of the melatonin/serotonin balance, but it comes from the depressive but nondiabetic side of the family. I could happily sleep from November to February.

There's a strong link between Type 2 and sleep apnea, some authorities believe the apnea is caused by autonomic neuropathy while others believe the apnea is causal to the diabetes.
 
I used to have problems sleeping but now winter is here I sleep for hours. Pity humans don't hibernate!!!
 
Well Trinkwasser and GillyH, I am a SAD too. I need a huge amount of sleep in the winter. At 6pm I could go to sleep and not get up till 8am. Instead I do my best to get out in any sun that is about and exercise like mad. Once May comes around I'm really perky. Not now though.

My theory is that it is normal to be like this in winter. In cave man times sleeping when it was dark had several important advantages.

Conserved energy.
Kept you safe from wild animals/getting lost in snowdrifts.
Being unsociable meant you got into fights less with other people in the cave.
 
Katharine said:
Well Trinkwasser and GillyH, I am a SAD too. I need a huge amount of sleep in the winter. At 6pm I could go to sleep and not get up till 8am. Instead I do my best to get out in any sun that is about and exercise like mad. Once May comes around I'm really perky. Not now though.

My theory is that it is normal to be like this in winter. In cave man times sleeping when it was dark had several important advantages.

Conserved energy.
Kept you safe from wild animals/getting lost in snowdrifts.
Being unsociable meant you got into fights less with other people in the cave.
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Spot on!

And it ties in nicely with the Thrifty Gene theory of Type 2, you stash a load of food as body fat and become locomotor retarded to avoid wasting it. In those **** diabetic mice this is easily reversible but in certain humans it becomes impossible to turn the system off.

Sometimes you can fool the hibernatory system by hitting your brain with high light levels either in the morning or the evening so it thinks the daylength hasn't got shorter yet.
 
Katharine said:
Well Trinkwasser and GillyH, I am a SAD too. I need a huge amount of sleep in the winter. At 6pm I could go to sleep and not get up till 8am. Instead I do my best to get out in any sun that is about and exercise like mad. Once May comes around I'm really perky. Not now though.

My theory is that it is normal to be like this in winter. In cave man times sleeping when it was dark had several important advantages.

Conserved energy.
Kept you safe from wild animals/getting lost in snowdrifts.
Being unsociable meant you got into fights less with other people in the cave.
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Strangely, I am just the opposite!
I feel much better in myself when it's raining / cold, etc. but in the summer I'm usually dead on my feet :oops:
I'm really lifeless, my legs don't want to work properly and I just want to crawl away into the shade :x
I have always been like this, even when I was a kid...

... Jim
 
ATSBod said:
Strangely, I am just the opposite!
I feel much better in myself when it's raining / cold, etc. but in the summer I'm usually dead on my feet :oops:
I'm really lifeless, my legs don't want to work properly and I just want to crawl away into the shade :x
I have always been like this, even when I was a kid...

... Jim
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Reverse SAD, less common but a known disease. I'm less certain what you can do to avoid this one except move to Scotland
 
Jim,

I can guarantee your fair weather lethargy will be cured if you come up to Scotland.

I would meet you at the train station, but I can't be bothered getting out of bed.
 
ATSbod, i think you and my mum must have been separated at birth! She's always felt awful in the summer and wanted to hibernate until the autumn! I think it might have something to do with the fact that every holiday they had when she was little was spent touring the highlands of Scotland! (Her dad was originally from Glasgow) :mrgreen:
 
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