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DIET QUESTION!

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My husband is 1 week into his new life/new diet. His BS readings have come down from 16 to 8.5, and he has lost 2lbs. :mrgreen: So this is all good so far...but we are confused about diet.
When he had his heart attacks, they screamed at him "no butter! no red meat! eat pasta!". Now I'm screaming at him "eat butter! eat meat! no pasta!" He is asking what the hell he IS supposed to eat and how do we know its right ! :mrgreen: Anybody ??
 
The "no butter, no red meat" is a commonly held mistaken belief. Ther never was any science behind it.. Don't eat too much pasta, has a scientific basis. It turns to glucose in the blood.
Try eating chicken and white fish cooked in lower fat ways, if butter worries you.Also you might find Dreamfields pasta works for you. It's available on-line. Doesn't work very well for me. Still puts BG up.
there's no problem at all with green veggies/salads.
Read a few scientific papers on diet. You will find that much of the "Received wisdom" on diet is pure supposition.
Hana
 
I'd agree with Hana. There's far more convincing science and 'biological plausibility' behind the argument to eat butter and meat and leave behind the nutritionally bereft foods like pasta.

All the best,

fergus
 
:mrgreen: Of course this would all have to happen when I had a cupboard FULL of pasta - not to mention 15 kgs of sugar eh ? :evil:
 
I heard a little iem on the news this morning
You need to put the sugar into a little water and leave i outside for theexhausted bees. ( not on the ground for the ants though.
Pasta is Ok in TINY portions
 
Sorry to add to your confusion but ,I think that you should take advice on diet from your husbands heart specialists and think very carefully before adopting a diet high in saturated animal fats.
Whereas a low carb, high fat diet may help him loose weight in the short term (and hence improve his glycemia) it may not be the best diet in the long term. Also by following such a diet e may also reduce his intake of foods that may be protective against CVD.
It is in my opinion simply untrue to say that there is no evidence behind 'healthy' eating advice. Because It is difficult to design any form of dietary research in a way which avoids one problem or another nearly all studies will be capable of being challenged.
If you want to read a summary of the research on which British guidelines are based :
The Dietetic guidelines on food and nutrition in the secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease – evidence from systematic reviews of randomized controlled trials (second update, January 2006 )http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118554000/abstract
CONCLUSION: There remains good evidence that reducing saturated fat reduces morbidity in patients with CVD. This advice is consistent for most manifestations of CVD, with the addition of Mediterranean dietary advice and increased omega 3 fats for those who have had a myocardial infarction.
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An alternative to a low carb diet is to make use of the glycemic index . . you still won't have much use for the sugar, but it may be that small portions of wholemeal pasta may be OK . A low gi diet works well for many people with type 2 diabetes. Such a diet includes less refined carbs and advocates (as with the CVD diet) replacing saturated fats of animal origin with unsaturates from fish and vegetables. http://www.glycemicindex.com/


You might like to look at the non low carb success thread. the forum is still in its infancy (because of the history of this website) but there are sucess stories from people who haven't adopted a low carb approach. There are some similar stories in the Our Journeys thread.
 
Well. I will look at those threads ty. But I'm also trying to keep him in the middle of all worlds, with just a bit of wholemeal pasta and just a bit of butter, and not many fried breakfasts, but (as I probly told everybody already and your all sick of hearing LOL ) my ME is really really bad just now and I feel like I'm running round in circles and making a total mess of it all. So staying in the middle path will be safer just now :mrgreen:
 
But I'm also trying to keep him in the middle of all worlds, with just a bit of wholemeal pasta and just a bit of butter, and not many fried breakfasts
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moderation is a good thing :)
 
Re: DIET QUESTION-more problems !

I like butter because it's a natural food, unlike low fat spreads & marge. Plus I LIKE it , so we have it :mrgreen:
We are having more problems today (well one of us is... :evil: ) He started off so well, too. The readings were going down but now have gone back up again. I'm trying to explain its the food, but he's getting so ratty & fed up. He's at 10.5 in fasting mode and we had got that down to as low as 5.9. I think we just need to test all the time now, instead of random times twice a day.
Does anybody get depression with diabetes ? Serious question ! because he was already pretty down about his health before this. TY .
 
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