Diet

paul guy

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Diet only
I am 52 years old and have seen my gp twice after two fasting blood tests first one was 7.6 the second one was 7.8

He thinks I am type 2 my dad was diagnosed when he was 53 , I also have high colesterol I have an appointment with a heart specialist on 15th of jan.

My gp has given me a low dose of statins he says he wants me to see the heart specialist before he goes any further with the type 2 diabetes since seeing him I have changed my diet and have lost 18 pounds in four weeks my weight now sits at a stable 12 stones 6 pounds I have noticed that my readings after fasting are between 5 and 5.5

Wondering if the fast weight loss has cured the type 2
 

Daibell

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Hi and welcome. If you are overweight and have insulin resistance then serious dieting can push your diabetes into remission where if you are lucky it can stay as long as you control your weight and the carbs
 

paul guy

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I just read about it they are doing a trial at newcastle university they put it down to the body starts to store fat in the liver and pancreas at a point which is different in people and by what they call a crash diet will cure it although I do not agree with crash diets I just went on a low carb and cut out sweet stuff although it seems to have worked for me.
 
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Lazybones

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Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
Dear Paul Guy.
Firstly welcome to the Diabetes Forum, which if it were possible to avoid, I'm sure that we diabetics would all have liked to avoid. From your first posting, having achieved two consecutive fasting Blood/Glucose readings that are/or exceed 7.0 mml/L will mean that you have 'qualified' and passed the diabetic entrance test.
It can be very confusing at first, but take each day as it comes and learn a little more as to how to become the master of your diabetes and not the slave. You are already making a fine start by realising that both a controlled diet with sensible regular exercise is the principle weapon in defeating diabetes. Having been confirmed as being diabetic will unfortunately mean that you will have to live with this condition throughout your life as although it can be controlled, unfortunately at this moment in time it cannot be totally eliminated.
I would expect Daisy will be along shortly with some useful and helpful advice that she post to all the new-diabetics.
There are some individuals here on this site who disagree with the use of 'Statins' to control and regulate Cholesterol, but from my own personal experience, I've been on them for many years now and they have indeed managed to bring my own Cholesterol down to a safe limit.
You will have much to learn and it can sometime seem that it might be all to much, but don't worry, we've all been down that road in our early days of diabetes and have survived. Should you have any query or question then please ask as many members on this forum are only to pleased to share their own experience with a fellow diabetic sufferer.

Best wishes for the future - Lazybones
 
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izzzi

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I am 52 years old and have seen my gp twice after two fasting blood tests first one was 7.6 the second one was 7.8
heart
He thinks I am type 2 my dad was diagnosed when he was 53 , I also have high colesterol I have an appointment with the heart specialist on 15th of jan.

My gp has given me a low dose of statins he says he wants me to see the heart specialist before he goes any further with the type 2 diabetes since seeing him I have changed my diet and have lost 18 pounds in four weeks my weight now sits at a stable 12 stones 6 pounds I have noticed that my readings after fasting are between 5 and 5.5

Wondering if the fast weight loss has cured the type 2
Well done @paul guy :),and welcome to this nice and friendly forum.
Just make sure you take your time going through all the advice etc; @daisy1 is the best start and guide.
Sounds to me that you have had a wake up call and you have acted accordingly, which is no bad thing.
After you have seen the Cardiologist may be the best time to choose the kind of diet thats best suits you.
Best of luck.
 
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daisy1

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Hello @paul guy and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, including the information on carbs. Carry on asking questions and, as you see, someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

paul guy

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Thank you for the warm welcome lazybones daisy1 izzzi and Daibell I do have one question I have just done a meter reading before my tea it was 5 after 2 hours I will take another reading my question is during the two hours do I treat it as a fasting test or can I drink tea with sweetx or will this affect the reading im sure this is a stupid questi but felt I had to ask
 

Daibell

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Hi. The best time to do the before and after test is just before typical meal and then 2 hours after. This will help tell you how well your body copes with a reasonable meal. It's not intended to eba fasting test