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<blockquote data-quote="Brunneria" data-source="post: 2310281" data-attributes="member: 41816"><p>I found this on youtube yesterday.</p><p>V interesting watch.</p><p>Though, to be honest, you could skip the first 22 mins if you wanted to shorten it.</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]N8N5oduX1KQ[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>From 22 mins in, they are discussing studies showing that wearing masks reduces the viral load (the inoculum), and therefore give a milder infection due to reduced exposure to the virus - or even an asymptomatic infection - one study (see link below) actually showed a 90% asymptomatic spread, but I will let you read the details yourself.</p><p></p><p>Links to her papers, a full transcript, podcast and more at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzdoggmd.com%2Fmonica-gandhi&v=N8N5oduX1KQ&event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmRoWGdMTmxpU29sTDI2ZFVJLTc1VWhoR1RNd3xBQ3Jtc0tsampQcE51TG9SUnh2cFhuT2RZdWZObUZ6bnVCR1ZIM3hSblp0WmRTWk9LMzQzQnNDTy1XSDhsbXliMS0yVUU4M3hYRW9BNl9Mbi1UVlZFZGRQZUxGWVNsamh5TlU4MzZBNTI1eHpjVzZlRXRiVnZWVQ%3D%3D" target="_blank">https://zdoggmd.com/monica-gandhi</a></p><p></p><p>Throughout, the emphasis seems to be Yes, this is a theory, and we need more studies to clarify, but in the meantime, where is the harm of wearing a mask? And if the theory is true, we could open up, cease all lockdown, and enjoy relatively normal life + masks until herd immunity is reached by large numbers of mild or asymptomatic infections.</p><p></p><p>One of Monica Ghandi's papers published in the Journal of General Internal Medicine</p><p><a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11606-020-06067-8" target="_blank">https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11606-020-06067-8</a></p><p>and here is another from New England Journal of Medicine</p><p><a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2026913" target="_blank">https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2026913</a></p><p></p><p>Also (because these links took me down a 'mask rabbithole') I came across the following</p><p>I have seen references to Mike Osterholm publishing 'criticisms' of Monica Ghandi's suggestions, but have not found those yet</p><p>Would be curious to read them (in the interests of balance) if anyone finds them could they post them? although I am wondering if it is a case of things being taken out of context.</p><p><a href="https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/osterholm-stop-mischaracterizing-my-comments-about-face-masks" target="_blank">https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/osterholm-stop-mischaracterizing-my-comments-about-face-masks</a></p><p>This is a link to Mike Osterholm himself, saying that he has been misquoted, out of context, and used as a reason why masks are bad, which is not his standpoint - but does not mention Monica Ghandi</p><p></p><p>Interesting stuff, but possibly (yet another) case of social media bickering.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brunneria, post: 2310281, member: 41816"] I found this on youtube yesterday. V interesting watch. Though, to be honest, you could skip the first 22 mins if you wanted to shorten it. [MEDIA=youtube]N8N5oduX1KQ[/MEDIA] From 22 mins in, they are discussing studies showing that wearing masks reduces the viral load (the inoculum), and therefore give a milder infection due to reduced exposure to the virus - or even an asymptomatic infection - one study (see link below) actually showed a 90% asymptomatic spread, but I will let you read the details yourself. Links to her papers, a full transcript, podcast and more at [URL='https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzdoggmd.com%2Fmonica-gandhi&v=N8N5oduX1KQ&event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmRoWGdMTmxpU29sTDI2ZFVJLTc1VWhoR1RNd3xBQ3Jtc0tsampQcE51TG9SUnh2cFhuT2RZdWZObUZ6bnVCR1ZIM3hSblp0WmRTWk9LMzQzQnNDTy1XSDhsbXliMS0yVUU4M3hYRW9BNl9Mbi1UVlZFZGRQZUxGWVNsamh5TlU4MzZBNTI1eHpjVzZlRXRiVnZWVQ%3D%3D']https://zdoggmd.com/monica-gandhi[/URL] Throughout, the emphasis seems to be Yes, this is a theory, and we need more studies to clarify, but in the meantime, where is the harm of wearing a mask? And if the theory is true, we could open up, cease all lockdown, and enjoy relatively normal life + masks until herd immunity is reached by large numbers of mild or asymptomatic infections. One of Monica Ghandi's papers published in the Journal of General Internal Medicine [URL]https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11606-020-06067-8[/URL] and here is another from New England Journal of Medicine [URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2026913[/URL] Also (because these links took me down a 'mask rabbithole') I came across the following I have seen references to Mike Osterholm publishing 'criticisms' of Monica Ghandi's suggestions, but have not found those yet Would be curious to read them (in the interests of balance) if anyone finds them could they post them? although I am wondering if it is a case of things being taken out of context. [URL]https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/osterholm-stop-mischaracterizing-my-comments-about-face-masks[/URL] This is a link to Mike Osterholm himself, saying that he has been misquoted, out of context, and used as a reason why masks are bad, which is not his standpoint - but does not mention Monica Ghandi Interesting stuff, but possibly (yet another) case of social media bickering. [/QUOTE]
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