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<blockquote data-quote="jjraak" data-source="post: 2148380" data-attributes="member: 493719"><p>Hi [USER=53162]@Juicyj[/USER]</p><p></p><p>i agree retraining is the key</p><p>and the point of the thread is HOW do we make that happen ?</p><p></p><p>But, this diabetic team you speak of.</p><p></p><p>For me mine was...The doc who gave me 5 minutes to tell me i was ill.</p><p>a 2nd visit to tell me i got worse (6 weeks HClf :***<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>the DN's who breezed through the tests (x2)</p><p>one telling me all was good carry on following the good advice..(had rejected it and went LCHF)</p><p>the other telling me how good everything is going..(again eatwell=Good <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> )</p><p>throw in the eye test and that in over one year makes around two hours If that</p><p>add in the two day desmonds...nice enough but info was not what i needed re food,</p><p>though meeting fellow sufferers was nce.</p><p></p><p>GP's just don't have the time for us, not moaning just a fact.</p><p>online is where i learnt the most about my condition, and got the most help in managing it from fellow sufferers on here, not from my doctors surgery..that is sadly i acknowledge, the real world.</p><p>so lets embrace it as part of the solution.</p><p></p><p>( I do feel that type 1's Do have, as is appropriate a 'care Team'</p><p>But that types 2's (at least in my case) that 'team' just doesn't seem to be there. )</p><p></p><p></p><p>as for the other points made in thread</p><p></p><p>Not sure, but if we all know it's money, why any authority would sanction the libre,</p><p>regardless of how useful it might be.</p><p>Much more likely to go old (aka cheap) tech and run with meters IF we are lucky.</p><p></p><p>as a self funder i couldn't sanction the costs of a libre, why would the NHS absorb it.</p><p>red herring in my opinion..sorry.</p><p></p><p>as for meters, and training...mmhh</p><p></p><p>if only there was a site that instead of following outmoded food plans had a more open policy on LCHF and other alternatives, that ACTUALLY were proving great success, in the real world. ?</p><p></p><p>DCUK, should in my eyes, be the De Facto option for type 2's.</p><p>Duk just seems to recite the current dogma that those same HCP we all moan about, dish out</p><p></p><p>Solution to the 'training' ..mmhh..</p><p>perhaps let DN's do a basic one, then Put the training videos up on here, with a "how /when /why /what the numbers mean" in FULL View...that would be most useful, so newbies can review and recap at will..</p><p>(if desmonds was anything to go by, by the time the DN gets around to doing that training , most will be proficient by then )</p><p></p><p>give newly diagnosed the link to THAT DCUK page, as part of the care package.(<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />) off site training sorted</p><p>(Those interested come here anyway, lets just make it official )</p><p></p><p>DCUK make it an integral part of the forum, so those arriving for the first time are met with</p><p>Good Information and the beginnings of their support network.</p><p></p><p>So... back to the original issue</p><p>HOW do we make that happen and who do we need to target the message to.?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jjraak, post: 2148380, member: 493719"] Hi [USER=53162]@Juicyj[/USER] i agree retraining is the key and the point of the thread is HOW do we make that happen ? But, this diabetic team you speak of. For me mine was...The doc who gave me 5 minutes to tell me i was ill. a 2nd visit to tell me i got worse (6 weeks HClf :***:) the DN's who breezed through the tests (x2) one telling me all was good carry on following the good advice..(had rejected it and went LCHF) the other telling me how good everything is going..(again eatwell=Good :rolleyes: ) throw in the eye test and that in over one year makes around two hours If that add in the two day desmonds...nice enough but info was not what i needed re food, though meeting fellow sufferers was nce. GP's just don't have the time for us, not moaning just a fact. online is where i learnt the most about my condition, and got the most help in managing it from fellow sufferers on here, not from my doctors surgery..that is sadly i acknowledge, the real world. so lets embrace it as part of the solution. ( I do feel that type 1's Do have, as is appropriate a 'care Team' But that types 2's (at least in my case) that 'team' just doesn't seem to be there. ) as for the other points made in thread Not sure, but if we all know it's money, why any authority would sanction the libre, regardless of how useful it might be. Much more likely to go old (aka cheap) tech and run with meters IF we are lucky. as a self funder i couldn't sanction the costs of a libre, why would the NHS absorb it. red herring in my opinion..sorry. as for meters, and training...mmhh if only there was a site that instead of following outmoded food plans had a more open policy on LCHF and other alternatives, that ACTUALLY were proving great success, in the real world. ? DCUK, should in my eyes, be the De Facto option for type 2's. Duk just seems to recite the current dogma that those same HCP we all moan about, dish out Solution to the 'training' ..mmhh.. perhaps let DN's do a basic one, then Put the training videos up on here, with a "how /when /why /what the numbers mean" in FULL View...that would be most useful, so newbies can review and recap at will.. (if desmonds was anything to go by, by the time the DN gets around to doing that training , most will be proficient by then ) give newly diagnosed the link to THAT DCUK page, as part of the care package.(;)) off site training sorted (Those interested come here anyway, lets just make it official ) DCUK make it an integral part of the forum, so those arriving for the first time are met with Good Information and the beginnings of their support network. So... back to the original issue HOW do we make that happen and who do we need to target the message to.? [/QUOTE]
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