DO YOU WANT TO JOIN ME TO MAKE A CHANGE TO CURRENT GUIDELINES?

Great idea @Debandez

i utterly fail to see how measuring the toxicity of the foods we ARE clearly allergic to,
can be anything BUT beneficial.

While it would be a cost.( .isn't it always. ) if we weigh up the inital cost with the lifetime costs, it works out pretty cheap,
AND it's the RIGHT thing to do...what right does anyone have to just write us off, without even giving us a chance to prove or attempt a way of managing our T2D that is clearly showing great promise.
(source: Dr Unwins surgery, Most of the posters on here with T2D.)

Given the argument WILL be it's just TOO expensive..
(today, perhaps..., but who cares what it costs us tomorrow.. Cash and Health wise )

Wouldn't a halfway house of allowing each NEW T2D, ONE set of low end glucose meter + 50 strips...(think codefree)

Then if those taking up the offer benefited, they now have an option of providing further strips for themselves AFTER seeing the efficacy of the Meters and all the impact certain foods have on them

for those who take but don't follow up or use well for whatever reason, that seems a small cost to pay, to give someone the CHANCE of a more successful (and by dint , less costly interventions) future as a Type 2.

Add in with the cost implication, pretty sure some accountant somewhere will be monitoring the success or not of the program and roll out..

IF we can mainly buck the trend of it being progressive, it follows many others once aware, COULD also follow in our footsteps..and surely THAT in itself could make it become the de facto tool for that all important first interventions ?

Thus freeing up those who agree but are currently oppressed in giving us freely information that contradicts the outmoded guidelines, dictated at present.

I like the high level 'celeb' type 2's being targeted..much easier if we have a successful role model fighting our case, i think.

Keep us posted @Debandez

 

Understanding which foods can cause metabolic issues is only beneficial to those eating them. Those selling them would rather you didn't know, and their influence is far reaching.

 

i'd agree, but we have to start somewhere jim.

And it's always going to be that cost ratio, that will win it for us,

Once we get beyond the initial payment, and others can see proof that PEOPLE can improve their control,
and thus require less medication/interventions and live healthier lives,..that is the dream and where we need to be

THAT is the moss on our rolling stone, the more it works the less resistance we'll get to this new faddy idea of eating
less of the Toxic food stuffs that cause us harm.

While those who can influence will certainly try, others who can see the benefits, will then join us in our clamour to be heard

We have nothing to lose really.

 

Yes definitely, I'm in.

 

Totally agree. It's a noble cause.

 

I have made a few noises for sure, but have lost some momentum. I think I can add some value as @Debandez and I have conversed previously and her example and profile are just stunning. Regarding the approach I would contribute I will run it by you both by PM in the first instance (over the next couple of days), as I have put in some background effort, however my approach I hope has taken a turn after watching this YouTube yesterday, after what Dr's David Unwin and Sarah Halberg said was the best approach to open doors.

It was interesting to note the answer to the point often raised as to why Dr Unwin doesn't talk about the HF component of LCHF, makes perfect sense now:

 

I’m up for that if it’s kept simple, something I can copy and paste, writing letters isn’t my strong point. And a dummies guide to finding out where I need to send it.

 

I'm in.
I also suggest adding David Davis to the list (possibly even Theresa May - though she is a Type 1 may be sympathetic) and also add some non-political celebs to the list. Hopefully some of them will be good at building a following.

 

Maybe she will understand how impossible it is to be aware of sugar levels if she’s not testing her levels. I know it’s different for type 1 to type 2 but if she can’t guess what her levels are how are type 2s supposed to get any idea if they are not issued with a metre and strips? (I know she’s using a libre now, but assume she had to do it ‘the old fashioned way’ before)

 

I’m in. is it worth actually explaining how a type 2 uses a meter and why though? So many hcp think it’s only for insulin dosing and hypo avoidance/ treatment and have no idea it’s uses for assessing food suitability

 

Count me in too.

 

Count me in as well - sent from sunny Portugal. I understand it's a bit wet at home.

 

count me in..i was the only one controling my sugars our way in june at my surgery.. which reminds me i havent had an invite for a three monthly hba1c yet...

 

Great idea @Debandez count me in. I would agree with @Brunneria about the lack of available money in the NHS and the short term view that causes. That said raising awareness and possibly opening some eyes is no bad thing.

 

Perhaps a good place to start would be to stop telling T2 patients NOT to test.

 

Great idea.

Meters and Freestyle Libres should be demo-ed on DESMOND courses by good video examples to illustrate the salient benefits of using a meter.