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dawnmc

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Watching breakfast tv this morning was someone called Donal O'Neill, he has a film out called 'Cereal Killers'. He as well as a few others were talking about LCHF, and saying that this will be the way people eat soon. He also talked about how wheat had changed (which I knew about) and also that low fat food was really ****.
 
dawnmc said:
He also talked about how wheat had changed (which I knew about) and also that low fat food was really ****.
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I think all food should go from the farm to the kitchen. As soon as you start adding intermediate stages, refridgeration, transport and especially, industrial processing, there is a deterioration in nutritional quality.
 
If it is the use of modern wheat, how is it that French and the Americans both eat about 750 cals a day from wheat but the US has far higher obesity rates than France?. (here are the graphs, they are from my neglected blog http://typeonepointfive.blogspot.fr/
The French certainly eat a lot of bread. It accompanies all meals and it forms the biggest part of breakfast, most is locally made. They also eat fewer calories than the Americans and in my perception far more fresh produce.
 
It's an interesting question. I wonder if it's something to do with genetics? But then I think the French eat less processed food? I love bread but it doesn't love me
 
Often in france people buy say baguettes every day and many twice per day. When I was there one Easter Sunday, there was a queue outside the baker's shop and he was furiously baking baguettes and trying to get everyone served so he could shut at 11.30 am. Baguettes don't keep and go stale very quickly. They have to be fresh.

In the UK, people want bread that lasts a week because they don't want to go to the bakers' shopevery day. Lord knows what they put in it to keep it that long.
 
What are yhe main differences then between France and US in the eating habits?

The only experience I have of France is going to a Prison Governors house in France and being given the equivalent of rocket fuel for alchohol!!

Is it because red wine is drank in France say and the cheeses are ate more regularly and soooo delicious?

If its not the qty of bread ( but possibly the differences in the way its made) then there has to be other factors...


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Having been to both France and the USA I'd think one of the main difference in diets is portion size. France tends to do small but delicious, combined with freshly made, good ingredients etc, accompanied by red wine. American meals are legendary in their hugeness, plus a lot of protein, accompanied by very sugary drinks.

Poorer communities in both countries end up with poorer diets, but in the USA the diet of the urban poor is a killer, packed full of the most processed cheap food imaginable. The UK is following close in their footsteps.
 
Whilst I agree about poverty, almost anywhere, I also think the nation's relationship and attitude to food is fundamental. In the US, and increasingly here, there is an attraction in fast food. In France, to take the context of this thread, the concept of fast food just isn't viewed the same.

Where we are now, although formerly a UK territory, it is certainly developing towards the American way of being and eating. The takeaway joints, in towns are becoming KFC, McDs etc., and the supermarket hot food takeaway counters, whilst more localised, focus on rice and peas and the other West Indian Classic of macaroni cheese. Although, they call it macaroni pie. But, nonetheless, it's mainly carby stuff. And, of course, the locals have an increased likelihood of developing T2 (which many of them simply cannot afford to have diagnosed or treated, but that's another story altogether).

When we go to a French territory for a few days next week, there is no McDs or any other fast food outlet. The only real cooked takeaway I have seen there is a wonderfully aromatic rotisserie, outside a supermarket, selling chickens from the spit, stuffed with veg and basted in a garlic jus. The wonderful boulangerie has queues almost constantly, with fresh baguettes being produced all day.

When one goes out to eat there, it's an all evening or afternoon experience, with every mouthful to be savoured, rather than rushed to get back to whatever is on TV, or indeed watching TV at the same time.

There have been threads on here in the past talking about eating at the table and so on, and I believe this is such an important thing for us all to do.

Rant over.
 
Fast food, convenience food, comfort food - all the highly processed stuff is cheaply produced but sold at a bit of a premium price. It takes advantage of people's lack of time; long commutes to and from work, snatched lunches, looking after the kids. Who wants to prepare cheap but nourishing meals for everyone? It's going to take an hour or two.

You can eat better, and cheaper, if you plan your meals for the week, buy in the right ingredients and make time. But, our society thinks it is cool to eat and drink 'on the go'. 'There is someone who is motivated to work and succeed, energised and ready to take the world by the scruff of its neck'.

I remember the days when people used to go home during their 'lunch hour'.

The government has got most people sacrificing their quality of life and grateful for the opportunity to acquire debt. Its a marketing bandwagon, or 'rut' as we used to call it.

Slow Food UK
 
Majority of distribution centres don't even get an hour for lunch. My hubby literally crams in food in 30 mins if he can get that amount of time!!

Are 1hour lunch breaks still the norm? I remember well walking home for my lunch breaks and for one of them finding I had 3 new puppies.

Oh and I want to move to France now!!


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I know that feeling. I am supposed to get 30 minutes but often have colleagues or kids wanting to see me. I am lucky if I get 10 mins, sometimes no lunch break at all!
 
Are you like hubby too that gets annoyed when smokers go out for their "extra" fag breaks?-lol!!


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Scandichic said:
I know that feeling. I am supposed to get 30 minutes but often have colleagues or kids wanting to see me. I am lucky if I get 10 mins, sometimes no lunch break at all!
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I feel working like that caused me to pile on the weight and never do anything about it. I used to be so hungry by the end of a school day that I would stop off at a supermarket on the way home, buy rubbish to eat for dinner and something very carby to eat in the car while I drove the rest of the way.

There's all sorts of things that need to be fixed about our lifestyles if we are to get healthy as a nation. Just taxing sugary drink sure won't fix it all!
 
Are you psychic! That's exactly how it was! Diabetes was the wake up call so meals planned every week. Only have cheeses and nuts in school as little snacks and fried brekkie fills me up.
 
donnellysdogs said:
Are you like hubby too that gets annoyed when smokers go out for their "extra" fag breaks?-lol!!


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Not sure if this is to me? As long as people don't smoke near me then I don't mind how many fag breaks they have - not my place to judge as I already have enough faults of my own - lol!
 
My hubby gets annoyed when he can't get his 30min break for 8 hrs but smokers can sneak out every hour for 10 mins!! I tell him he got to get himself more organised to take his break.

Going back to the post though, it does hilight that our meals can be more on the go and therefore easy pickings for faster food.....which in the majority is more laden with carbs..??


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Take it that you both are involved in education of children?
Then that has changed from 40 years ago whenI was at school. Our teachers ate school meals at our table with the children at our secondary level school...

Food and breaks for health really sems as it is in the dark ages now!


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I began to put weight on aged 32 when I went to university to study for a degree and to become a teacher. Didn't take the time to continue my fitness regime but carried on eating. Stress of the job didn't help either. I'm not stupid yet I did a stupid thing! Depression didn't help either.


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