You have to deal with a fair number of people who combine being evangelical about their diet with being combative toward anyone who even demurs slightly. That seems to be the main one.
Second, it's an exclusion diet. Exclusion diets have negative social effects as well as positive and negative biological effects.
Third, if you're "fair, fat and forty", gallstones threaten.
Fourth, it avoids triggering your latent insulin resistance but it doesn't actually reverse it, contrary to some claims.
Haa that's brilliant love itOK, so here are the down sides of low carb:
That's my contribution.
- If, as a T2, you go seriously low-carb, you may end up coming off all diabetic medications and may, therefore lose your right to free prescriptions.
- If you are carrying a bit of excess weight, you will probably lose it, so there is the expense of all those new clothes.
- When you are obviously blooming with health, it will be more difficult to "throw a sicky" when you want to get out of something.
- You need to start saving more money into your pension scheme, because you are now running the risk of living longer.
- You may feel and look sexier. This can lead to all sorts of time wasting activity.
Sally
LOLOK, so here are the down sides of low carb:
That's my contribution.
- If, as a T2, you go seriously low-carb, you may end up coming off all diabetic medications and may, therefore lose your right to free prescriptions.
- If you are carrying a bit of excess weight, you will probably lose it, so there is the expense of all those new clothes.
- When you are obviously blooming with health, it will be more difficult to "throw a sicky" when you want to get out of something.
- You need to start saving more money into your pension scheme, because you are now running the risk of living longer.
- You may feel and look sexier. This can lead to all sorts of time wasting activity.
Sally
In Sheri Colberg's Diabetic Athlete, the very first case study is of a triathlete whose insulin:carb ratio for breakfast is 0.5:125. After breakfast and training, he eats again at 9:30 - 130g carbohydrate. That's his mid-morning snack. He also eats power bars, lunch and dinner.it's my opinion that some posters boast about how many carbs they can eat but is it a delusion or someone fishing for reaction?
...........In his book 'Waist Disposal', Dr John Briffa advocates giving up sweeteners and sweet things generally rather than trying to substitute lower carb sweet things. He says (and I totally agree) that if you don't lose the taste for them, they are always there to trip you up.
If this was a forum for alcoholics, and you were trying to give up your addiction, would it be helpful for forum members to talk about going into the pub for a shandy or comparing low alcohol bottled beers ?............
I agree with you totally, I do not believe there is only one approach simply because we are all unique in our conditions.In Sheri Colberg's Diabetic Athlete, the very first case study is of a triathlete whose insulin:carb ratio for breakfast is 0.5:125. After breakfast and training, he eats again at 9:30 - 130g carbohydrate. That's his mid-morning snack. He also eats power bars, lunch and dinner.
I don't think he does that because he's fishing for a reaction. I don't think Colberg writes about it because he's fishing for a reaction. I don't think people offer alternatives here because they are fishing for reactions. I think they offer alternatives because they have different experiences, different strategies, and because they are concerned that a single viewpoint should not obliterate all others on a discussion forum. There are other strategies than LCHF. One of them is LFHC, plus exercise.
In answer to the OP again. Something I forgot: LCHF is relatively expensive.
I totally disagree!
That is a myth.
I am on a small wage and small pension and if you shop for natural foods and cook yourself, then it can be cheaper!
There has been a thread about this recently but I can't do the link thingy!
I so agree with what you have said here.That's absolutely true and for the most part, I don't blame them. Many people are proud of their success and many people have made significant improvements in their health by maintaining a LCHF diet.
Then, someone like me comes along and "challenges" (not to be misinterpreted as "disagrees with") their opinions and it can be difficult to have an objective discussion.
I rarely claim that someone is flat out wrong, but I do ask people loaded questions and challenge them to justify their opinions. I've been posting on Internet forums for 15 years and see how easy it is for biases to develop. My only goal is to seek the truth (and help others seek it) about diabetes and especially what is still unknown.
You're right in that it can be cheaper, but IMO that depends on a number of factors such as cooking skill/interest, and physical ability to plan, shop, store, and prepare food, often from scratch. Some people have physical limitations that mean the most feasible way to manage this is by relying on slightly more expensive foods, such as clotted cream, cheese, pre-packaged salads, cooked chicken/meat, veges that are not in season, and so on. It's hard to balance cost with required effort, LCHF content, perishability, and taste/texture. Something has to give.I totally disagree!
That is a myth.
I am on a small wage and small pension and if you shop for natural foods and cook yourself, then it can be cheaper!
There has been a thread about this recently but I can't do the link thingy!
You're right, probably the main cost driver for you is organic food. For me it's that I have difficulty cooking food from scratch so I choose half or fully prepared options.If I were to add up the cost of the things that I don't buy now, either because I'm low carb or because husband is gluten free, I think if I bought only non-organic food I'd be saving a lot of money.
When people say that low carb is expensive, I always assume that they are eating massive amounts of steak, sausages and bacon. LCHF is moderate protein and low carb protein can be eggs or fish not just meat. We eat quite a lot of eggs, fish, cheese and nuts. We also eat chicken and lamb more than we do beef.
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