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I had a small heads-up......That’s fantastic news! Thanks for posting this @KennyA
There are many doctors and specialists speaking out against statins and other drugs these days and good job too because we have been lied to for decades, Dr Suneel Dhand and Prof Ben Bikman are both amazing and thankfully their honesty is a breath of fresh air big pharma has had things their way for long enough to boost their billions, it’s disgusting.The Mail on Sunday has admitted that its allegations against Harcombe and Kendrick were untrue and has apologised, as well as paying all costs and substantial damages. It's a complete collapse. You might remember that the MoS accused both of being "statin deniers" and "having blood on their hands". The initial findings came out in June:
High Court dismisses Mail on Sunday’s public interest defence in “statin deniers” libel case - Carter-Ruck
In a major Judgment delivered on 25 June 2024, Mr Justice Nicklin has dismissed a public interest defence advanced by The Mail on Sunday in a libel claim brought by Dr Zoë Harcombe and Dr Malcolm Kendrick. The decision follows a preliminary trial last year in what the Judge described as “the...www.carter-ruck.com
The Judge said then
“There is perhaps a palpable irony in the fact the Defendants, in Articles that so roundly denounced those alleged to be the purveyors of misinformation, so seriously misinformed their own readers.”
Text of apology below, link to today's MoS at the bottom.
On 3 March 2019, The Mail on Sunday published articles (one headlined "The deadly propaganda of the statin deniers") in which we featured Dr Zoë Harcombe PhD, a researcher, writer and public speaker on diet, health and nutritional science, and Dr Malcolm Kendrick, a GP, writer, and lecturer, with an interest in cardiovascular disease. Dr Harcombe and Dr Kendrick brought proceedings for libel.
At trial, the Court held that our articles had accused Dr Harcombe and Dr Kendrick of knowingly making false statements about statins, and that a very large number of people ceased to take statin medication and were exposed to serious risk of heart attack or stroke on a scale worse than the MMR vaccine scandal as a result of those false statements. The articles also alleged that there were strong grounds to suspect Dr Harcombe and Dr Kendrick of making these statements motivated by the hope that they would benefit materially, and included quotes from the then Health Secretary, Matt Hancock, which suggested that their statements were ‘pernicious lies’.
We accept the findings of the Court that the inclusion of the Hancock quote created a misleading impression of what he said. We also accept that these allegations are untrue and ought not to have been published.
We are happy to set the record straight, and apologise to Dr Harcombe and Dr Kendrick for the distress caused. We will not repeat the allegations and have agreed to pay substantial damages and costs.
Dr Zoë Harcombe PhD and Dr Malcolm Kendrick - Apology
On 3 March 2019, The Mail on Sunday published articles (one headlinedwww.dailymail.co.uk
@Lupf - in June the judge gave a preliminary ruling on the basis of the evidence heard. He rejected the Mail's "public interest" defence and indicated that as soon as it was clear there was a respectable professional anti-statin view (albeit one never mentioned in the MSM), then the portrayal of Harcombe and Kendrick was indeed libellous.@KennyA The judge ruled in june 2024. I recall reading this.
So what is new? is it the last two sentences of the Mail on Sunday article of yesterday 13 Oct 2024?
"We also accept that these allegations are untrue and ought not to have been published.
We are happy to set the record straight, and apologise to Dr Harcombe and Dr Kendrick for the distress caused. We will not repeat the allegations and have agreed to pay substantial damages and costs."
The apology and the payments were presumably required by the judge's verdict. Can you confirm or clarify, please.
I'm not sure this judgement goes that far. It recognises that there is not one "correct" view on statins/cholesterol: so it cannot be claimed that therefore anyone who disagrees with it is a fool at best.It will be interesting to see how that spools out, and how long it will take the ponderous wheels of the NHS to turn into acknowledgement.
Hi @KennyAWhat it doesn't do, and the Court has expressly said it wouldn't do, is establish who is professionally correct. That needs to be decided elsewhere - and based on recent research and the 2019 statements from the American College of Cardiology, it might have been already - agin the pro-statin side. If cholesterol is not a killer, then taking a drug that lowers cholesterol is a waste of time at best.
@KennyA this is the paper on saturated fats, which of course is also excellent,One step at a time - the Mail only admitted defeat last Sunday. This has been going on for years and it doesn't vanish overnight. Wikipedia is a lost cause.
The 2019 JACC paper is this one, where the Journal find the College's own guidance to have no scientific basis:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109720356874?via=ihub=&utm_source=arrow.proteinpower.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=the-arrow-188
[Edited to remove typo]
I don't disagree, and I would like to see that too - but I'm not optimistic it will be soon.@KennyA this is the paper on saturated fats, which of course is also excellent,
but it doesn't discuss statins, it doesn't even mention it.
While for you it is clear that this implies that statins are "a waste of time at best",
I would like to see this connection published in a medical journal.
The 2019 ACC/AHA Guideline on the Primary Prevention of Cardiovascular Disease need such papers,
before they can update the guidelines, which currently is telling GPs to prescribe statins to all diabetics.
You said yourself, that while the court has now made it clear that the vilifying of statin critical people
is wrong, it correctly said that this does not imply what the correct answer will be.
This needs scientific studies.
I was thinking of the Planck quote but couldn't remember who it was. Thanks for mentioning it. It does sum it up the situation perfectly.@KennyA said:
"I don't disagree, and I would like to see that too - but I'm not optimistic it will be soon.
...
It took more than a generation to get here and I fully expect it will take more than a generation to unwind."
I tend to agree with you, and your are in good company.
The physicist Max Planck is quoted saying that science advances one funeral at a time. Or more precisely: “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." This was the case with quantum physics, which revolutionised physics.
The problem with diet is not only the science, which is making progress, but as you say, others are involved as well.
You are worried about governments not willing to admit they were wrong, but commercial interests from the pharma industry
will resist against all evidence.
The fact that smoking causes CVD and kills was long established, but Tobacco companies refused to accept this, hired scientists who were paid to claim black is white, while the public long had made up its mind and smoking rates in men reduced substantially. It took class action suits in the US and a new generation of decision makers in government who did not grow up any more with "smoking is cool" to turn this around.
While the shaming of fatty food, actually saturated fatty acids, is turning, commercial interests on cholesterol lowering drugs will continue to overhype the benefits and underacknowledge their side effects despite mounting evidence against. They will do everything to keep their money printing machine going. You can see what they are doing to Kendrick, Harcombe and others now that they are winning, read e.g. the article from Malcolm Kendrick in https://brokenscience.org/kendrick-harcombe-trial-the-conspiracy/, it is scary to imagine to what they will resort to when they will be losing. However eventually the case against statins for all will prevail one GP surgery at a time.
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