Oh, I'm not worried about that. Tried a DVT twice before, and know what that feels like. 2nd time I went straight to my GP, who referred me to A&E, but there's not much they can do as I'm already being treated with Zarelto. First time was a different case altogether. I didn't know what it was, but it felt just like a sore muscle, so I just massaged it. I ended up in hospital with lung embolisms. Not good fun. My calf muscle is not sore, but my right leg and foot is fatter than my left, so I suspect that it might be damage from the DVT, that my vein can't really pump my blood back up towards my heart. I was warned that this might happen even after a couple of years, but oh no. This couldn't happen to me, right? Dr. Google says there's no treatment other than compression socks, but I'm looking into specifik exercises that'll help my circulation, hoping that someone in here might have tried something similar. Compression socks would really turn my life very sour.I know we can’t give medical advice but I’d strongly advise you to seek medical help. If you do have a DVT, untreated the clot can travel to somewhere else where it can cause a lot more damage, like your lungs or your brain. With the weekend on us your best bet is to call 111, mentioning your previous history is really important.
Seek medical advice. My husband says that all exercise helps but he still has to wear compression socks fairly often. Losing weight is helping. His veins were permanently damaged by DVT. I would add that he also suffered pulmonary embolism whilst he was not on thinners and I'm lucky he is still here. Do keep talking to the medics. He says that you will work out what works for you but don't ignore symptoms.I suspect that's why my right foot and leg is more swollen than my left. I had a DVT in 2015 and again in 2016, because some stupid doc took me of my Xarelto (blood thinner). Anyway, vain me absolutely refused to have anything to do with compression socks. That's something my dad wears at 85, but not me. I was sure that I'd never hear from my ex-thrombotic leg again, but now I'm not so sure.
I'm still not keen on wearing compression socks - or socks at all, for that matter. I know you lot can't give me any medical advice on this, but I'd like to hear if anybody else has had DVT and/or post thrombotic syndrome, and have managed to at least stop the progression by doing exercises aimed at this affliction?
My aim is to get rid of the swelling.
I know that DVT may not be directly related to diabetes, but quite a few of us get it anyway, so I'd appreciate to hear from anybody experienced with this.
Seek medical advice. My husband says that all exercise helps but he still has to wear compression socks fairly often. Losing weight is helping. His veins were permanently damaged by DVT. I would add that he also suffered pulmonary embolism whilst he was not on thinners and I'm lucky he is still here. Do keep talking to the medics. He says that you will work out what works for you but don't ignore symptoms.
Just leaving this here for you @briped , please read it and take this seriously.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/deep-vein-thrombosis-dvt/
I am under the impression from the cardiologist that I see, that once you start taking Xaralto (Rivaroxaban) you are on it for life.I suspect that's why my right foot and leg is more swollen than my left. I had a DVT in 2015 and again in 2016, because some stupid doc took me of my Xarelto (blood thinner).
Hi @bribed,
I went through the same thing as you. End of May 2015, I was diagnosed with DVT, pulmonary embolism and T2 diabetes. I also thought initially that the thrombosis was just a sore muscle. So, I really empathize.
Since then, I have put in quite a lot of time researching both conditions. There seems to be some connection between DVT and diabetes because high blood sugars make blood platelets stickier. So, having good control of blood sugar levels will probably help a lot.
Anyway, I actually did wear the support stockings regularly for two years, even at night for the first half year -- though I have to admit that I hated it. I agree with you -- compression stockings is what old women wear. I am also not sure whether they did actually help. There seems to be some research that questions this. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24315521. Anyway, in spite of having worn the stockings, my left leg still swells when I am out and about for a long period of time.
So, when I spend long hours at work, I still wear the stocking to minimize swelling (though I generally decide to wear pants or opaque wool stockings to cover it). If I spend much less time outside, I usually go without.
Exercise, such as running might also help. I used an elliptical trainer daily since diagnosis and though I still observe some swelling after standing up for long periods of time, the affected leg is at least functionally equivalent to the other (based on clinical tests).
Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
I am under the impression from the cardiologist that I see, that once you start taking Xaralto (Rivaroxaban) you are on it for life.
My GP has never suggested that I stop taking it in the last four years.
Aww, and just two months after me. A sore muscle was exactly what it felt like, but I let that 'sore muscle' go on for just a bit too long. I don't know ... A week, perhaps? Then it felt back to normal, and everything was hunky dory till I started feeling breathless, but that was just some virus, right? Smashing, and to think I could've warned you if I'd known you at the time.
Our bodies are very complex machines, and one thing leads to the other. The hard thing is helping our bodies back in balance. At least my BG is within an acceptable range now, but like so many others I'm struggling with my weight. Thanks for the info. The doc at the hospital got a very long and very incredulous look from me, when she asked me why I got the embolisms. I mean, that's what normal people would expect the patient to ask the doctor, not the other way around
It's just so difficult to know, isn't it? I mean, maybe your leg would've been even more prone to swelling if you hadn't made the effort. Yet it's good for me to know, because the hospital insisted on measuring me up for one after my 2nd DVT, and it was as if I'd offended them when I politely turned down their offer. This was in the spring of 2016, and till just a couple of weeks ago my legs were their normal old selves. A bit swollen at times, and completely normal the next day. Then I noticed that the ex-thrombotic one was more swollen than the other, and that I didn't like. I turned to Google, and then to my trusty bank of knowledge, shared experience and wisdom in here.
It's actually comforting to know that you can wear it on and off according to your needs and plans. I was under the impression that once you started wearing one, it was a life sentence, always to be worn like your diabetes, only much more visible.
11 years ago, when I'd managed to shed enough weight to be just on the ok side of BMI things, I did try to take up running, but after only 1 - 200 meters my shins would go all acidy and painful. Maybe I just wasn't persistent enough. I walked a lot, about 5 km/day or more. I know that today my right knee (that leg again) really wouldn't thank me for it, but while googling yesterday I found a PDF from the University Hospital of Aalborg (Denmark) with quite a few exercises for people with swollen legs. I'll give those a try twice daily once I've hoovered the floorIf you're interested, do let me know and I'll translate it for you.
You have been ever so helpful. I'm sure you don't even know, but you really have. Thank you so much.
My experience was quite similar. My hubby took me to the emergency entrance after I felt that the sore muscle pain had started moving upwards -- this was three to four days after the first symptoms occurred. In hospital then, I was diagnosed with DVT. When they did a CT scan, they also found that there were some blood clots in my lungs -- though I was still asymptomatic. I guess we are both incredibly lucky to be alive.
Like you, I remember the HCPs keeping on asking why I got the embolism. I had travelled the week before, but apparently the flight wasn't long enough to cause DVT. It seems to matter whether the DVT/embolism is provoked or unprovoked -- I guess this is why they keep asking. They even did genetic testing, but it seems I have no genetic abnormalities. Did they test this for you too?
Personally, I attribute the embolism to high blood sugars and high cortisol (due to extreme work stress and lack of sleep). Did you know that people with Cushing's syndrome (who produce way too much cortisol) have a tenfold increased risk of DVT?
Anyway, when I saw my GP in September last year (approx. 2 yrs later), he suggested that I come of blood thinners (im my case Apixaban Eliquis) and that I stop wearing the stocking. So, wearing stockings doesn't necessarily have to be forever.
The exercises you found sound interesting. What type of exercises are they? The nurse told me that flexing the front of my feet (with heels on the ground) while sitting is helpful in strengthening the muscles that support the veins in your calves.
Are you planning to get your leg/foot checked out? Maybe, they can do an ultrasound scan to see if there is any blockage.
Hi @briped,
I echo your sentiment. I almost feel like as if I were your twin too.
Wonderful that you have seen the swelling diminish. How do you feel today?
Your experience back then sounds quite scary -- what if your GP hadn't decided to admit you to A&E right away. It seems your breathing was already quite compromised. What did the doctors say?
To be honest, (and this was probably a bit crazy), I didn't really worry about the DVT and PE too much (after being given a shot of blood thinner) and the immediate danger had passed. What really concerned me at the time was the diagnosis of diabetes, as I thought life as I knew it was over. It actually took me many months to resign myself to this. Now after three years of being low carb, I don't really miss my old life very much (except maybe having some Mickey D's French fries).
I didn't know that there was a stigma attached to thrombosis. Is it similar to the one attached to diabetes? I really hate this prejudice because most of the people judging us T2s don't really know anything about the real causes (unfortunately including some HCPs). They see that maybe the majority of T2s are overweight and thus believe this is the cause, never thinking twice if it might be the deranged metabolism bringing on the weight gain and thus starting a vicious cycle.
Thanks for attaching the link with the exercises. The look good and not too difficult -- easy to understand even without speaking Danish. Exercise 8 actually looks similar to the one the nurse was telling me about.
Edited for grammar.
Hi @briped,
Yes, the way we live has changed a lot. If we are not hooked up to the net, we feel something is missing. Tbh, though, I sometimes fondly remember the times, when we weren't constantly expected to be available. Enjoy your time off the grid.
Based on what you have written, I wouldn't be surprised if your TVT/PE hadn't been brought on by high blood sugars and stress also. I think that answering emails first thing after getting into hospital is quite symptomatic.
Not that I was that much different myself. I was admitted on late afternoon/early evening on a Sunday and had to run an important aptitude test on Monday. I kept telling the HCPs that I had to be back at work early the next day -- of course, they just kept ignoring me.
How long did you end up staying in hospital?
By the way, your sister-in-law and her husband sound lovely. Definitely makes it so much easier if your family is supportive of your way of eating.
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