Eat more Fruit?

[lowedb]

I used to eat a lot of fruit - my colleagues used to laugh at me because I had a dish on my desk which I would fill on a Monday morning with a variety of fruit such as apples, pears, oranges, bananas, grapes, kiwis and plums and by Friday it was gone - although I would sometimes have help! I used to have a nice healthy breakfast - bran flakes with sliced banana and, if we went out for a meal, I had the 'healthy' dessert ie fruit salad with a small amount of fresh cream and I still got T2! Although I have the occasional apple with some cheese I tend to stick to berries now which I know do not spike me.

I agree. I always used to have 'healthy' breakfast cereals. Whole wheat for example. No sugary stuff. Sliced banana sometimes. Semi skimmed milk. And yet here I am!

 

[les74]

Howeve the nutritional benefits of fruit on overall health are well known and validated by this research. The argument that this should be disregarded for the sake of avoiding resultant spikes in BG levels may be considered over simplistic and risky. Is there an argument that the cost/benefit of avoiding fruits in a balanced diet is too costly overall. The resultant spikes need to be managed by either medication or insulin. Low BG numbers w/o a nutritional diet w/o fruit may present greater health risks than the alternative; borne out by this research.

 

[Avocado Sevenfold]

Howeve the nutritional benefits of fruit on overall health are well known and validated by this research. The argument that this should be disregarded for the sake of avoiding resultant spikes in BG levels may be considered over simplistic and risky. Is there an argument that the cost/benefit of avoiding fruits in a balanced diet is too costly overall. The resultant spikes need to be managed by either medication or insulin. Low BG numbers w/o a nutritional diet w/o fruit may present greater health risks than the alternative; borne out by this research.

Seriously? It is possible to have all the benefits of fruit such as fibre and vitamins by eating less-sugary fruits and vegetables and to still enjoy low bg numbers.

 

[Freema]

yes it is gruefull to think that the healthy wholegrain and all the fruits and low fat diet maybe could be the main reason for the diabetes we have got now...

Actually we ought blaim and sue the state in our respektive countries of misguiding us into this horrible disease..

 

[lowedb]

Howeve the nutritional benefits of fruit on overall health are well known and validated by this research. The argument that this should be disregarded for the sake of avoiding resultant spikes in BG levels may be considered over simplistic and risky. Is there an argument that the cost/benefit of avoiding fruits in a balanced diet is too costly overall. The resultant spikes need to be managed by either medication or insulin. Low BG numbers w/o a nutritional diet w/o fruit may present greater health risks than the alternative; borne out by this research.

But fruit in general is a problem. Choosing particular fruits, like currants and berries, can give benefits without the generalised 'eating fruit is good'. Quite early on in my journey having been told fruit was good for me, I had half a fairly green banana and a small cox's apple (they are fairly sharp rather than sweet). My meter told me not to do it again! Generalising that its good to eat fruit is in my own experience, quite bad. On the other hand I do eat fruit almost every day. Just not what the establishment tells me I should.

I would also argue that treating a bad effect of a certain food should be counteracted by chemicals (medicines) is very debatable.

 

[Hotpepper20000]

Peppers, cucumbers, tomatoes, avocado, green beans, zucchini, are all low carb fruits. No need to eat the sweet ones to get all the nutrients to stay healthy.

 

[lowedb]

Peppers, cucumbers, tomatoes, avocado, green beans, zucchini, are all low carb fruits. No need to eat the sweet ones to get all the nutrients to stay healthy.

Very true, as well as the berries I mentioned!

 

[Bluetit1802]

Peppers, cucumbers, tomatoes, avocado, green beans, zucchini, are all low carb fruits. No need to eat the sweet ones to get all the nutrients to stay healthy.

also I believe that kale, broccoli, cauliflower and brussels have tons of Vitamin C. I just wish bacon and eggs did.

This is from the NHS Choices site:

Good sources of vitamin C
Vitamin C is found in a wide variety of fruit and vegetables. Good sources include:

• oranges and orange juice
• red and green peppers
• strawberries
• blackcurrants
• broccoli
• brussels sprouts
• potatoes

So broccoli and brussels come higher in the list than many fruits

If people believe eating fruit for its vitamin benefits is worth a few blood glucose spikes, or that these spikes can be controlled with medication, what about the fructose inside the fruit that is dealt with by the liver rather than the general digestive system, and in quantity can contribute to fatty livers? Fatty livers we, as T2s, do not want and many of us strive to rid ourselves of fatty livers in order to help control the diabetes.

So eating too much fructose can be a double whammy. Higher BS and fatty livers.

 

[bulkbiker]

Howeve the nutritional benefits of fruit on overall health are well known and validated by this research. The argument that this should be disregarded for the sake of avoiding resultant spikes in BG levels may be considered over simplistic and risky. Is there an argument that the cost/benefit of avoiding fruits in a balanced diet is too costly overall. The resultant spikes need to be managed by either medication or insulin. Low BG numbers w/o a nutritional diet w/o fruit may present greater health risks than the alternative; borne out by this research.

Really? do you have some evidence for those claims please?
Why should I take medication or insulin when I can avoid the spike by not eating something? I get all my vitamins from meat and the minimal veg I eat with some extra fat thrown in.

 

[Daphne917]

Howeve the nutritional benefits of fruit on overall health are well known and validated by this research. The argument that this should be disregarded for the sake of avoiding resultant spikes in BG levels may be considered over simplistic and risky. Is there an argument that the cost/benefit of avoiding fruits in a balanced diet is too costly overall. The resultant spikes need to be managed by either medication or insulin. Low BG numbers w/o a nutritional diet w/o fruit may present greater health risks than the alternative; borne out by this research.

I come from a family that suffers from allergies and intolerances - one of my aunts, a cousin and my elder brother are coeliac and my sister, nephews and neices are allergic to fish, nuts, eggs and milk to name but a few therefore, the way I look at it is that, if it causes a reaction avoid if possible ie some foods spike my BS so I avoid them. My boss does not eat any fruit at all and she's still healthy.