Electronic cigarettes for diabetics?

michaelspoon

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Hi! I'm Michael and I'm here to help my best friend with a curiosity... She's been diagnosticated with diabetes and she's been smoking for a while. Should she stop or find an alternative? I've been looking for electronic cigarettes and I tought it would be a good ideea for her curent health status. What do you think?








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It doesn't matter what she's been "diagnosticated" with she should give up smoking. Diabetes has an effect on the blood circulation which is why extremities and eyes are the first to succumb. Sadly so does smoking so she will get a double whammy. It took years to find out what cigarettes did to people so it will be some time before we understand what electronic cigarettes do to them.

Just because they are twee doesn't mean they are any better than the real thing.
 
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Be careful with the e liquids she uses with e cigarettes. Most of the flavoured ones contain heafty amounts of sugar!!!
 

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Cigarette smoking is injurious to health, whether it is female or male, whether diabetic or not, cigarette should never be recommended to anyone. Nicotine patch is an alternative but it also has adverse effect on the health. Drinking bitter gourd juice can help your friend with the diabetes.
 

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I briefly smoked during the first year of T1 diagnosis and found my blood sugar uncontrollable , I didn't want to do any exercise and was generally disgusted with myself. Never again! I've read a number of reports that nicotine can raise blood sugar (or the other chemicals in cigarettes). wouldn't even touch e-cigarettes. Stop altogether , simple.
 

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I'm 54 days off the cigs now by using eLiquid with and eCig and found it really easy to stop the cigs..

Hasn't affected my blood sugars though I'm using a tobacco flavour. Though I've not heard of eLiquids with high sugars. As far as I know eLiquids don't contain sugar as a sweetener because it clogs up the coil and wick in no time. Many, if not most juices contain sweetner in the form of: sucralose, stevia or ethyl maltol.

Have a read here: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/ecigs-vaping-and-diabetes.html

They do state that it may in crease your HbA1c by about 1 point but I'm not sure about that as there has been no real clinical test to confirm as far as I'm aware. The increase is suggested to be to do with high nicotine levels but the good thing with eLiquids is you can gradually reduce your nicotine strength to zero. I started on 18mg and next step will be 12mg with the final goal of 0mg.

I'm a Happy Vaper - loving being off the cigs and saving money too. Oh and food tastes better.
 
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Thanks @scottish-jim, you may be right. When I used e cigs, I was actually warned by the shop owner not to use the flavoured liquids because of the sugar content. So I always only used the nicotine flavoured ones which didn't contain sugar. I did check out a couple of websites and found some of the cheaper makes had sugar in but the better quality ones seemed to use artificial sweeteners. That was a while back so things may have changed, but worth being aware of. Sue xxx
 

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I'm 54 days off the cigs now by using eLiquid with and eCig and found it really easy to stop the cigs..

Hasn't affected my blood sugars though I'm using a tobacco flavour. Though I've not heard of eLiquids with high sugars. As far as I know eLiquids don't contain sugar as a sweetener because it clogs up the coil and wick in no time. Many, if not most juices contain sweetner in the form of: sucralose, stevia or ethyl maltol.

Have a read here: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/ecigs-vaping-and-diabetes.html

They do state that it may in crease your HbA1c by about 1 point but I'm not sure about that as there has been no real clinical test to confirm as far as I'm aware. The increase is suggested to be to do with high nicotine levels but the good thing with eLiquids is you can gradually reduce your nicotine strength to zero. I started on 18mg and next step will be 12mg with the final goal of 0mg.

I'm a Happy Vaper - loving being off the cigs and saving money too. Oh and food tastes better.

Hey everyone,

Sorry for bumping an old thread, but found this really interesting. I'm an ex-smoker and vaping enthusiast myself. :)
I make my own e-liquid and got quite a bit of experience producing it. I've personally found sucralose solutions suspended in PG for the intent of vaping have little to no effect on my blood sugar levels.

I actually stumbled across this thread when looking for information on whether ethyl maltol has an effect on blood sugar levels. I suspected due to tissue in the lungs being so efficient at crossing substances into the bloodstream- that any sweetener raising the blood sugar levels would be apparent very quickly.
However at such relatively small concentrations in the mix plus the intake being small- I speculate that it wouldn't have too much of an effect, I think nicotine would be a more likely culprit. I read somewhere that nicotine is known clinically to raise BS levels- not sure if it's true but apparently that's part of the appetite suppressant effect.



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I'm 54 days off the cigs now by using eLiquid with and eCig and found it really easy to stop the cigs..

As far as I know eLiquids don't contain sugar as a sweetener because it clogs up the coil and wick in no time. Many, if not most juices contain sweetner in the form of: sucralose, stevia or ethyl maltol.

Just to add, I find that sucralose as an artificial sweetener especially clogs up the coils at any moderate percentage!

Also for anyone reading this just in case it's taken the wrong way- I'd advise against starting vaping unless you're using it as an aid to quit smoking altogether or to replace smoking tobacco. We have to be careful enough about what we put into our bodies as it is and even a well studied drug such as nicotine can affect every individual differently.

Although there is no real long term evidence to support the notion that this habit is 'safe'- it is drastically safer than smoking tobacco products, before diabetes even comes in play. I was told by my GP that the introduction of e-cigarettes as a smoking cessation aid to the NHS could be around the corner. They have already proven to be monumentally effective for quitting smoking; with up to 80,000 smoking related deaths a year caused by smoking this could be seen as a blessing to our national health.

I suspect many of the tabloid/sensationalist articles on the 'hazardous' effects of vaping could well be initiated by monetary input from tobacco industries who have been hit hardest by the emergence of vaping.

As for the long term, who knows? We do know however that nicotine is a well studied drug and is relatively benign alone (when not consuming it in the cigarette chemical cocktail and combusted with all of the other material). E-liquid in general contains propylene glycol and glycerol, both food safe.

Don't start smoking or vaping is my advice though. :) Stay safe
 
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