Yup. I'm going and I voted more than a week ago. The Glastonbury website has had a banner telling people to remember to register to postal vote for months and also proclaimed that the Eavis's would prefer an "Remain" vote.
Yup. I'm going and I voted more than a week ago. The Glastonbury website has had a banner telling people to remember to register to postal vote for months and also proclaimed that the Eavis's would prefer an "Remain" vote.Here is a new question I wonder how many of those going to Glastonbury have bothered to vote before they went I hear it will be about 100,000 are going, I bet some one will complain if the vote is as close as that.
That depends on whether we stay in the single market in the same way we are now or whether we negotiate for change. If it stays the same we have now way of controlling it. I agree that non-EU immigration has to be addressed too.
We hear lots about it in Australia and I have a question that someone might be able to answer: Does Boris really eat that much ice cream? Every time he is on our screens he eats from an ice cream cone then wipes his mouth with the back of his hand. It's not the same tape re-used because he has different flavours! He must be an ice cream addict, or is he making some point about UK-made ice cream?
In your opinion - which you are obviously entitled to.It's well known that Lord Rothermere, owner of the DM supported Moseley and the British Union of Fascists. The DM ran a front page article headlined 'Hurrah for the Blackshirts'. They might not so openly support fascist groups now, but their politics are still well to the right, and their bias and racism still encourages the Far Right.
In your opinion - which you are obviously entitled to.
This discussion came about as I posted an article that appeared in the DM in response to what another user had been saying. Tim2000 then gave me the information provided about LR because he did not agree with what had been written (actually I don't think he even read it). I did not actually know about the DM supporting 'Moseley' as they happened 80 years ago (and have nothing to do with the EU debate) - long before I was born! I would not stop reading a newspaper article just because of something Lord Rothermere supported 80 years ago!
Did you know that books such as 'The Canterbury Tales', 'Alice in Wonderland', 'Animal Farm', 'Doctor Zhivago' and 'Uncle Tom's Cabin' have been banned in the past in various countries around the world? Luckily we do not live in a society that dictates which items of literature we can and cannot read.
I know the Common Market/EEC was different. It's aim was to facilitate trade between European countries. I voted against being in it in the 1975 referendum as I thought it was just for the advantage of Big Business.I disagree. Entirely different situation. The EEC was a completely different entity.
Yes, thank you @Dillinger. Thank you everyone who took part in our EU discussions.Whatever happens tomorrow thank you all for discussing this in a coherent way.
Perhaps it depends on how you define 'literature', but we do have laws which can ban publications on certain grounds - eg if it is deemed to be pornograpic, libellous, literature that promotes race hatred, and information that can threaten national security. I remember 'Spycatcher' by a former head of MI5 being banned in this country a few years ago, though it was available abroad.Luckily we do not live in a society that dictates which items of literature we can and cannot read.
I will concede on Spycatcher - it was "banned in the UK 1985–1988 for revealing secrets. Wright was a former MI5 intelligence officer and his book was banned before it was even published in 1987" - he should have been beheaded for treason!Perhaps it depends on how you define 'literature', but we do have laws which can ban publications on certain grounds - eg if it is deemed to be pornograpic, literature that promotes race hatred, and information can threaten national security. I remember 'Spycatcher' by a former head of MI5 being banned in this country a few years ago, though it was available abroad.
I hoped you'd think more of me than that.... The reason I derided that article was because the first 3/4 of it was about "Daily Mail Bad Stuff" before there was any mention of the "plucky british entrepeneur" and contained firstly the poisonous anti-immigrant rhetoric that has been at the heart of the DMs campaign and then decided that former entrepeneurs that had managed to build some astonishing businesses were "people who shouldn't be emulated or trusted as they are bad". It typifies the very "Ignore experts for they know nothing" attitude that has been ever present in the leave campaign throughout this disastrous mess. A large amount of the attitude that is nearly always present in Richard Littlejohn articles.This discussion came about as I posted an article that appeared in the DM in response to what another user had been saying. Tim2000 then gave me the information provided about LR because he did not agree with what had been written (actually I don't think he even read it).
Similarly, for everyone, image all the news articles where we find out Cameron has lied to us again and again and again and we find out we are stuck in the EU forever with its repercussions. *Double Shudder*The Vote Leave campaigners might end up being fed up even if they get their way. Imagine the News programmes for the next 2 years as all the minute details of the "leave negotiations' are reported. Then the in-depth reporting over the estimated next 8 years of trying to form new trade deals around the world. *Shudder*
I do - sorry, I take it back.I hoped you'd think more of me than that....
But we're not stuck in the EU forever - we could still leave at any time in the future.Similarly, for everyone, image all the news articles where we find out Cameron has lied to us again and again and again and we find out we are stuck in the EU forever with its repercussions. *Double Shudder*
Yes but it has taken years to get a referendum as it is - the chances that they would let us have another one are very slim in my opinion (especially after all the pain we are all going through).But we're not stuck in the EU forever - we could still leave at any time in the future.
The Vote Leave campaigners might end up being fed up even if they get their way. Imagine the News programmes for the next 2 years as all the minute details of the "leave negotiations' are reported. Then the in-depth reporting over the estimated next 8 years of trying to form new trade deals around the world. *Shudder*
As we've said previously though, there are certain actions that, if taken by the EU, automatically trigger a referendum, enshrined in UK law. They don't have a choice of "letting us have another one", and if it was a case of a change of treaties, there would be a very different campaign.Yes but it has taken years to get a referendum as it is - the chances that they would let us have another one are very slim in my opinion (especially after all the pain we are all going through).
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