My understanding as well Jim. Just looking for evidence why we believe that. I’ve seen it but no idea where nowMy understanding is that dietary fat is only necessary in order to make the transition into ketosis faster and easier. After that the body should be well able to use all its own fat. I think you would still need to consume at least some dietary fat, but that would be hard not to do if eating an animal based ketogenic diet.
Obviously if you’re like me and had no weight to lose then dietary fat is absolutely critical.
My understanding as well Jim. Just looking for evidence why we believe that. I’ve seen it but no idea where now
Agreed. But I’m sure there are studies or evidence out there I can’t find them.I don't believe that eating (extra) fat is actually necessary in order to lose it . I believe all that's required is a large enough deficit of fuel to force the body into burning stored fat, e.g. "starvation" ketosis rather than dietary ketosis. and that's how diets like the Newcastle work.
I assume there's a popular misconception that eating fat -> ketosis, and ketosis = burning fat, and burning fat -> weight loss, without considering where the fat actually comes from.
I certainly wasn't eating any extra fat in my early low carbing days when I ( somewhat unexpectedly!) lost a large amount of weight. This was after I'd simply been told to cut down on sugar, and then understood that all carbs were an issue, so although I was already eating some fat I'd not discovered LCHF as such.
Robbity
Agreed. But I’m sure there are studies or evidence out there I can’t find them.
I’d like to share that facts (as opposed to it being just my opinion) with some others who are spreading the you must eat lots of extra fat in order to lose message, in my opinion erroneously and actually, potentially, hindering the losses.
And you in fact prove my point that fat is a lever to adjust for hunger and desire for weight loss, maintenance or gain.Hi HSS,
Sorry, I can't point to a study either. My personal experience is of being a TOFI and so trying to lose visceral fat and control my BG without consciously cutting down on calories. Thus As I cut carbs, I increased my fat intake to match, so I lost 10% of my weight after not being more than 2lbs overweight to start with.
Could I have theoretically done it without increasing my dietary fat? - Probably, but only in theory since I would have been far too hungry to have stuck with it !
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