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<blockquote data-quote="Lamont D" data-source="post: 2354426" data-attributes="member: 85785"><p>I have spoken to many doctors and dieticians, mainly through my last job which was in professional sport. I have also had advice from nutritionists.</p><p>I had a consultant endocrinologist to look at my fatty liver in 2005/6 and why my body was not responding to the dietary regime recommended.</p><p>He did not believe me, when I told him I couldn't drink alcohol, I was only eating what I was advised. He didn't have a clue and dismissed me, because of the reasons that most GPs don't understand it.</p><p>I readily admit I am weird, my system does not work the same as most people or diabetic patients do.</p><p>I produce too much insulin of which the signal does not stop driving my blood levels down, only when the signal is stopped because I need glucose, does the pancreas switch off. It is this unused insulin response that has to go somewhere.</p><p>I am not a trained dietician, I am a person who has battled to get on in life, I have had to depend on my skills and willingness to think logically.</p><p>If you go on the premise that with all the tests I have had, the reason I say that it is insulin is my experience and my food diary, test results, and speaking to my specialist endocrinologist, who is very knowledgeable on rare hypoglycaemic conditions.</p><p>The drug I was tested on and a paper published and used by my endocrinologist was sitagliptin. This is a dpp4 inhibitor. This is useful as I have a very weak initial insulin response. This has been seen in blood taken from a cannula pre test and shortly after and an hour and two hours when I had my first and second eOGTT tests. All my blood panel tests (a lot!) were sent to a private specialised Laboratory down south. I had to wait over a week for the results.</p><p>It is not idiopathic, it is my insulin response that is the key to why.</p><p>The trigger for an overshoot is the rapid glucose derived from carbs, as I said I had too much insulin circulating at the time, which the insulin resistance was a compounded effect, and the cycle of excess insulin, insulin resistance and going high then low into Hypoglycaemia constantly, the basis of being in ketosis is, logical, no spike, no trigger, no overshoot, no hypo.</p><p>And the trigger is caused by carbs. All carbs.</p><p>Calories, I have never counted, I have been on a so called healthy calorie controlled dietary regime but it is carb laden. Calories are not as important as what foods are healthy for you. One T2 is different to other T2s, what works for one won't work for another, that is why you see different results, the cause of T2 is different in most cases and the treatment needs to be individually tailored to the reason for their diabetes. It could be insulin resistance, how do you reduce insulin resistance, by reducing the amount of insulin circulating. A lot of T2s have similar symptoms of reactive hypoglycaemia I do believe that a low carb diet help with reducing insulin to halt the spikes. The right balance for you, is more important. I am lactose intolerant, so I can't get my fats from dairy, I can't eat a lot of vegetables, I have found a balance of protein, fats and vegetables that agree with me and improve my health. I for some reason do not have to use supplements or vitamins, I just need to avoid carbs. I am carb intolerant. I don't need them. I know my brain and body work better without carbs, I am sixty six shortly, I have never been as fit for decades.</p><p>I've left this for last, it is a hypothesis I have discussed with my endocrinologist and came to a conclusion that it is highly likely but no way to prove it.</p><p>One of the causes of Reactive Hypoglycaemia is a bacteria called heliocobacter pylori.</p><p>This bacteria is found in the gut and was always been thought to be the cause of ulcers and stomach problems that are common.</p><p>I had the antibiotics for the bacteria. And it cleared the bacteria. It was no surprise when you research all this that the gut bacteria cured certain issues that I had but it coincided with the severity of symptoms I was experiencing at that time.</p><p>You could say that my stomach issues were cured at the cost of hypoglycaemia.</p><p>Not that I knew about it then.</p><p>I have read and I have wrote that the signal from the brain is what triggers the initial and secondary overshoot of insulin. This signal, I have seen been called the gut brain trigger function, in other words what takes the brain milliseconds to send signals about eating, the gut has a response to what is going in.The signal goes back and forth, because how do you know you are full? No two people have the same gut biotic, and the composition of that bacteria has an effect on how the response to what goes in there. The heliocobacter pylori changed my bacterial balance between good and bad, this altered the signal to other hormonal response including insulin production.</p><p>I am not conversant enough with how and why my body works differently. I just know that I have tried and tested all the foods that I eat and like and it works for me. Having very little carbs and keeping my blood levels in normal range constantly is really beneficial for my health.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for responding, I can see that you are learned, I have had life experiences that I know needing to be open minded and resourceful, how much success has been seen with eating the right diet designed for you. The problem with the dietary advice is usually one size fits all, and you should eat five fruit and veg, for example, this is totally illogical if your body cannot cope with five fructose meals every day, similarly having too much of any food is bad. I often tell people because of my fasting regime that I always feel better and have more energy and less tired, and can work for long periods without food. Travelling around the country, I would go without for most of the day, simply because I felt better.</p><p>One of those things that needs to be changed in dietary advice is having three or four meals a day and snacks. I have seen a nutritional paper advising seven times to eat in a day, no one can benefit from that load.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for replying.</p><p></p><p>Keep safe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lamont D, post: 2354426, member: 85785"] I have spoken to many doctors and dieticians, mainly through my last job which was in professional sport. I have also had advice from nutritionists. I had a consultant endocrinologist to look at my fatty liver in 2005/6 and why my body was not responding to the dietary regime recommended. He did not believe me, when I told him I couldn't drink alcohol, I was only eating what I was advised. He didn't have a clue and dismissed me, because of the reasons that most GPs don't understand it. I readily admit I am weird, my system does not work the same as most people or diabetic patients do. I produce too much insulin of which the signal does not stop driving my blood levels down, only when the signal is stopped because I need glucose, does the pancreas switch off. It is this unused insulin response that has to go somewhere. I am not a trained dietician, I am a person who has battled to get on in life, I have had to depend on my skills and willingness to think logically. If you go on the premise that with all the tests I have had, the reason I say that it is insulin is my experience and my food diary, test results, and speaking to my specialist endocrinologist, who is very knowledgeable on rare hypoglycaemic conditions. The drug I was tested on and a paper published and used by my endocrinologist was sitagliptin. This is a dpp4 inhibitor. This is useful as I have a very weak initial insulin response. This has been seen in blood taken from a cannula pre test and shortly after and an hour and two hours when I had my first and second eOGTT tests. All my blood panel tests (a lot!) were sent to a private specialised Laboratory down south. I had to wait over a week for the results. It is not idiopathic, it is my insulin response that is the key to why. The trigger for an overshoot is the rapid glucose derived from carbs, as I said I had too much insulin circulating at the time, which the insulin resistance was a compounded effect, and the cycle of excess insulin, insulin resistance and going high then low into Hypoglycaemia constantly, the basis of being in ketosis is, logical, no spike, no trigger, no overshoot, no hypo. And the trigger is caused by carbs. All carbs. Calories, I have never counted, I have been on a so called healthy calorie controlled dietary regime but it is carb laden. Calories are not as important as what foods are healthy for you. One T2 is different to other T2s, what works for one won't work for another, that is why you see different results, the cause of T2 is different in most cases and the treatment needs to be individually tailored to the reason for their diabetes. It could be insulin resistance, how do you reduce insulin resistance, by reducing the amount of insulin circulating. A lot of T2s have similar symptoms of reactive hypoglycaemia I do believe that a low carb diet help with reducing insulin to halt the spikes. The right balance for you, is more important. I am lactose intolerant, so I can't get my fats from dairy, I can't eat a lot of vegetables, I have found a balance of protein, fats and vegetables that agree with me and improve my health. I for some reason do not have to use supplements or vitamins, I just need to avoid carbs. I am carb intolerant. I don't need them. I know my brain and body work better without carbs, I am sixty six shortly, I have never been as fit for decades. I've left this for last, it is a hypothesis I have discussed with my endocrinologist and came to a conclusion that it is highly likely but no way to prove it. One of the causes of Reactive Hypoglycaemia is a bacteria called heliocobacter pylori. This bacteria is found in the gut and was always been thought to be the cause of ulcers and stomach problems that are common. I had the antibiotics for the bacteria. And it cleared the bacteria. It was no surprise when you research all this that the gut bacteria cured certain issues that I had but it coincided with the severity of symptoms I was experiencing at that time. You could say that my stomach issues were cured at the cost of hypoglycaemia. Not that I knew about it then. I have read and I have wrote that the signal from the brain is what triggers the initial and secondary overshoot of insulin. This signal, I have seen been called the gut brain trigger function, in other words what takes the brain milliseconds to send signals about eating, the gut has a response to what is going in.The signal goes back and forth, because how do you know you are full? No two people have the same gut biotic, and the composition of that bacteria has an effect on how the response to what goes in there. The heliocobacter pylori changed my bacterial balance between good and bad, this altered the signal to other hormonal response including insulin production. I am not conversant enough with how and why my body works differently. I just know that I have tried and tested all the foods that I eat and like and it works for me. Having very little carbs and keeping my blood levels in normal range constantly is really beneficial for my health. Thanks for responding, I can see that you are learned, I have had life experiences that I know needing to be open minded and resourceful, how much success has been seen with eating the right diet designed for you. The problem with the dietary advice is usually one size fits all, and you should eat five fruit and veg, for example, this is totally illogical if your body cannot cope with five fructose meals every day, similarly having too much of any food is bad. I often tell people because of my fasting regime that I always feel better and have more energy and less tired, and can work for long periods without food. Travelling around the country, I would go without for most of the day, simply because I felt better. One of those things that needs to be changed in dietary advice is having three or four meals a day and snacks. I have seen a nutritional paper advising seven times to eat in a day, no one can benefit from that load. Thanks for replying. Keep safe. [/QUOTE]
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