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fed up , not doing well

clucey

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been diagnosed in feb 2014 and after initial shock and guilt tried to embrace the changes I was advised my diabetes nurse, recently I have put on weight again and find myself not "caring" about what I eat ! im stuck in a rut ! work is depressing ! and I cant get to how I feel about myself when I was working well and losing weight my blood sugar is making great improvements but because of weight not enough to delay or to stop going on insulin ! seeing nurse next week and im sure she will say ive run out of time for the tablets and have to go on insulin ! !!
 
Time for a new approach maybe?
I lost interest and thought sod it I'm just going to eat whatever I want but ... it's a downhill spiral and this disease is life threatening.
You're worth the effort and the attention even if you might not feel it right now.
I started the high fat low carbs thing yesterday and have been reading about modern bread and even why shop potatoes are worse for me than those that come straight from the garden to the kitchen ... finding it all rather fascinating.
Being interested and having any understanding whatsoever about carbs is not me ... not the old me anyhow.
So this is my new approach.
Maybe you can find one?
 
Feb 2014 is not all that long ago - there is still time to pull things round. You can refuse to go on insulin (I don't know if this would be a wise thing to do, but you can do it, if so minded). Unless your diabetic nurse is an extremely unusual member of her/his species, I very much doubt if the changes she/he advised would have been of any real help. Have you tried a low carb diet, it's what many here do, often with great success. This really can bring blood sugars down and make you feel miles better. There's lots of information on the forum and I'm sure others will be along soon to advise further.
Sally
 
Totally sympathise with you. I am type 2 diagnosed dec 2013. Struggling to lose weight, tried 3 lots of medication as they make me feel so rotten! Fed up with feeling like this so I am going to try the low carb diet as I do know that bread makes me feel bloated and lethargic. I need to try the eat to your meter but testing strips so expensive and drs won't give me a prescription.


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I can only echo what has been said above. Short term pain for long term gain. In fact it isn't pain once you get to grips with it and see the results, it spurs you on.
Are you testing at home to see what foods you can tolerate. If you take control you can avoid the insulin. It is worth the effort to get your life back.

jim
 
Hi. Going onto insulin as an overweight T2 is not a good idea as it will be adding more insulin to a body probably overloaded with it. It is so important o do the low-carb diet first. Byetta is commonly prescribed as an injectable to help those T2s with weight problems. Do discuss options with the DN after seriously low-carbing
 
Ditch the tatties mate.
 
Love your avatar.
 
Hi Clucey and welcome to the forum

You will find that you will get lots of help from the members here. And this is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find helpful, especially the information on carbs as it is very important to reduce them as much as you can.



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
thanks guys had afew more dodgy eating days but am now back on a "can do" attitude ! am off work for afew days and seeing nurse about the low days , on Thursday with the normal check up , I think the "what is good and what not" is the difficult one,as its hard to know if some are or not and say no to other foods and foods its ....um.... not sure one time wont hurt , just this once , awaiting to go on an education course but its a lot to learn when u need to change so quickly, it feels. also know some people who are also type 2 like me who real normal food , its depressing, but I know for me personally this is not going to beat me ! I will eat better ,I will get my levels where they should be and be fitter and thinner in the process ! xxx
 
Buy a meter Clucey. Test each meal before and after, then you will know what you can and can't eat. Ignore your nurse if she tells you not to test. If you test you may get some nasty shocks and that should be enough motivation to avoid that food next time. Good luck!
 
yeah I got a meter as soon as I could I don't test regularly maybe just once twice a week but am thinking now it will be worth doing it xdaily before and 2 hours after meals to see what affects it worst it will help in cutting out certain snacking as well as did it 2 xs before 1 day with snacking and another day no snacks it did make a difference , im a comfort that's what I still struggle with my nurse said I gotta get under control, I know that , easier said than done but im starting a diary food blood levels
 

Hi @clucey I do feel for you but one of the benefits of LCHF eating which hasn't been mentioned is that almost immediately you will feel no need to snack.

This new eating routine doesn't feel as if you are depriving yourself, but instead you are eating pure, unprocessed healthy foods. Cream on your strawberries or in coffee for example feels like a treat, but in fact is necessary to give give you energy and will make you feel satisfied, without wanting to snack.

I can't recommend it enough, and it will improve your overall sense of well-being in a very short time.

Good luck
 
hi well its been afew weeks since have been on forum, am glad I have people to talk to about this, well went on lyxumia now been on the high dose for 2 weeks now so been on it for 4 weeks in total, had been testing myself regular but my nurse questioned it so I stopped, I have been good most of the time, have been junk fooding sometimes, I feel guilty doing it, but have cut right down on it, try and make sure I don't have money or access to the junk food in the first place, but have been feeling depressed recently,, I know this could cause real probs long term and fully aware of it, its just ..... well I don't know, it was the one thing that I did, but didn't notice, but did, if u know what I mean that was there, it was my comfort and although I try and minimalise it I do still do it. Sugar levels are going down and becoming better, but I do my first hospital blood test in end of Sept since Feb and the nurse is hoping it will be about 70-75 when it was 88 back in Feb. I'm hoping too. I have lost weight , I float between a certain amount and up to 2kilos higher, I am seeing her again tomorrow and hoping it will the lower again, the good thing is the injection is making me less hungry all the time so with willpower (I don't always have enough of this) I will only eat three times a day, so when I eat other than that it is still comfort eating, and I and the nurse knows that. That is what I still need to conquer. I hope that in the next couple of weeks, month at the most I will be able to say I have lost 2 stone in weight or 14 kilos and that my BSL will be lessa than 75 at that blood test at the hospital, and that I have barely comfort ate. Have a great evening
 
88 was similar to my 91 at diagnosis (a week before xmas). Personally I would be very upset with 70 to 75 with a starting level just above that some 6 months ago. You seriously need to take control and ignore your DN about testing - how do you know how you are doing if you do not test and more specifically which foods are killing you (strong words but true I am afraid).

What do you eat? We may be able to help you with some pointers. You could also have a look into the newcastle diet this approach has worked wonders for many. I managed 91 to 40 following a very similar method and people have also managed similar on other low carb diets.

I am really pleased with your loss of 2 stone and I would hope you see much better than 75mmol/mol but if you want to see much better then I am sure we can help you as a group. My first suggestion would be to stop the snacks or if you must have them try something like raw carrot sticks or a few nuts. The other thing is to start by dropping bread/pasta/rice/potatoes, this will help substantially. Have a look in the low carb section for food ideas.
 
hi its been afew weeks since been on this thread, time to be proud and motivated !!!! I got my 6 month HBA1c result ...... wait for it ........ 37 !!!!!!!!!!!!! the diabetes nurse I see regularly as I said before was expecting 77 !!!! I did better than that !!!! 37 !!!! I was walking on air that day, my cholesterol although didn't know what it was in feb when diagnosed is now 4 !!!! presume that is excellent !!! and my average on blood sugar !!! 5 !!!! now im chuffed because a - im a comfort eater and trying to change my ways, b - because I was diagnosed in feb 2014 , c - I feel a failure in everything I do !!!! I feel this is the start of good things, im on a cross trainer everyday, bought it last Saturday and have been on it every day since, even for a few minutes but, I have already lost inches off my waist and lost weight too, im feeling extremely positive about life, I don't fell I will permanently fall off the wagon, because the results have proved I can make changes that will improve my health, so im sticking with it, I know I will have bad days but I know I can change !!!
 
what I did accept is that what I eat will kill me !!! I'm about to turn 40 in January 2015 and have 3 wonderful children and , like I said to my ex I want to be able to see my 80th Birthday with sight and be walking and not have any complications from diabetes !!!!! It will be a struggle at times, im not stupid !!! I know the risks and complications of not controlling this early !!! But I know now how to change and what the positives come out of changing for the better are compared to not, and I want to be as healthy as I can for as long as I can !!!! and that my friends is for decades not weeks or months !!!
 
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