feeling fobbed off any annoyed!

jessie01

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went to see the nurse today and while i was there i mentioned the whole diabetes thing,,, my morning level is about 11 to 13 it then spikes up to 15 then in eve its usually 17 these later readings are 2 hours after meals before meals im around 11,,,,,,, i had gd in mpregnancy from the start with my 18 month old and was insulin 4 times a day from 11 weeks pregnant. i have passed all tests since having him althouhg one was borderline. my last hba1c in april was 45 mmols whatever that means., the nurse was very very dismissive and made me feel a pest even said maybe the meter was broken!!! its actually one of my daughters meters only a few months old,,,, no way is it broken if it was were in serious trouble as its used sometimes for her diabetes shes type 1 and also very physically disabled and we need to do all her diabetes bits,,, i pointed out that it cant be normal to be 17 odd 2 hours after eating a normal meal.....anyway she in the end said i could have a hba1c ( if i wanted one) and its booked for next wed ive been told not to fast,,,,,, i said do i not need to do a gtt or a fasting blood test etc was told no they are only offered to pregnant women,,,


is what she is saying correct is the hba1c the only thing that is needed? and is it possible im diabetic even if my hba1c was ok in april? is being around the 13 to 17 mark ok for most of the day considered ok and nothing to worry about? feeling very fobbed off and confused!! :crazy:
 

jessie01

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just to add i had not been testing at all since april and the only reason i started this week was ive been sleeping to much feeling laethargic can feel the blood pulsing around particuly in my arms hands and face., my face feels flushed im grumpy sometimes and also itching a lot down below :thumbdown:
 

jessie01

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thankyou, just had a read thhrough and yes 45mmols according to WHO put me right in the middle of high risk of diabetes so if that was 7 months ago is it not feasible it has risen since then? i dont want to be a pain and i dont want to feel like im trying to convince them i am diabetic but i really am concerned,,, even more so as i have a c tome behind my right ear in my head which is being operated on on xmas eve and im concerned how if my bloods are running high how this will effect my surgery and or recovery x
 

halfpint

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi Jessie
I am not an expert and I don't visit this site much these days, but I am a bit like you ie pre-diabetic. There is lots of evidence that if its caught early then it can be halted or at least slowed down substantially. So with your readings do not be fobbed off.
Ask for a HbA1c, this will show your average levels for the last 3 months. Its an important diagnostic tool.

As you are already testing, this is good. That is what I do. I have had three readings of 6.2, 6.2 and 6.3 over the last year which shows that things were going wrong. I now test regularly. As your readings are higher than they should be, have a good look at what you have eaten at each meal. Many of us find that by cutting all sugar, and reducing by at least half our carb intake, we can bring the levels down. Do read up on the type II forum about carb intake. Daisy used to post some interesting stuff, you may find it helpful.
 

daisy1

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
Hi Jessie and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information that halfpint mentioned which is helpful for prediabetics too:


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.