Fibre Content

[Priam]

I understand that daily we need about 38 grams of fibre. Today I actually weighed my vegetables; I had 320 grams of various veg and 150 grams of fruit. Using information from the interweb the total carbs was 30 grams and fibre just 5.1 grams. So my question is: how can you possibly get enough fibre pursing a low carb diet? If the interweb figures are correct it ain't possible.

 

[donnellysdogs]

Fibre is to me questionable.... Some of us can only eat low fibre due to stomach problems..
It makes me question again how advise is given and we are all given an "average"'figure plucked from somewhere.
I would say that if you are having good regular bowel movements then it is not necessary to monitor how much.
I've had one gastroenterologist say more fibre, one less and one that says my food has nothing to do with my stomach problems.....the thing that has helped me most is drinking two litres of water with a lemon, a 1/3rd of cucumber, a herbal infusion teabag and an inch of fresh ginger in it each day... That has been my best thing ever to help me.. The other thing is 30g of rice krispies-this was recommended as they are low fibre...apart from that I follow gluten free (not the rice krispies though); lactose free snd a liw FODMAP lifestyle of eating. (Definitely no onions in anything or garlic).

Just doing this has been the best thing ever for my digestive system.

I wouldn't be too worried about the amount of fibre...unless of course you were so restricting food on low carb that you were getting problems with your bowel...

 

[Priam]

Fibre is to me questionable.... Some of us can only eat low fibre due to stomach problems..
It makes me question again how advise is given and we are all given an "average"'figure plucked from somewhere.
I would say that if you are having good regular bowel movements then it is not necessary to monitor how much.
I've had one gastroenterologist say more fibre, one less and one that says my food has nothing to do with my stomach problems.....the thing that has helped me most is drinking two litres of water with a lemon, a 1/3rd of cucumber, a herbal infusion teabag and an inch of fresh ginger in it each day... That has been my best thing ever to help me.. The other thing is 30g of rice krispies-this was recommended as they are low fibre...apart from that I follow gluten free (not the rice krispies though); lactose free snd a liw FODMAP lifestyle of eating. (Definitely no onions in anything or garlic).

Just doing this has been the best thing ever for my digestive system.

I wouldn't be too worried about the amount of fibre...unless of course you were so restricting food on low carb that you were getting problems with your bowel...

That's the problem.

 

[donnellysdogs]

I take it that you are either one extreme or the other then...

Can you give a clue what you've ate today?

I'm not a doctor or adviser but boy I've lived with horrible bowels!! Due to other health probs I'm on morphine patches and these paralyse your stomach from working....

Flaxseed and chia seed is great too. So are acidophilus Tablets from holland and barratt...

 

[Priam]

I take it that you are either one extreme or the other then...

Can you give a clue what you've ate today?

I'm not a doctor or adviser but boy I've lived with horrible bowels!! Due to other health probs I'm on morphine patches and these paralyse your stomach from working....

Flaxseed and chia seed is great too. So are acidophilus Tablets from holland and barratt...

Breakfast: a two egg omlette (150gm) and 50 gm Mushrooms; lunch: 1/2 an apple (50gm) and banana (100 gm); Dinner: Chicken Breast (125 gm), Onion (50 gm), Cauliflower (100 gm), French Beans (50 gm), Brussel Sprouts (25 gm), Cabbage (50 gm). Veg for dinner was stir fried in about table spoon of pressed rapeseed oil. Worked out at about 630 cals, 35gm gross carbs and 12.5 gm fibre.

 

[SamJB]

Nuts and seeds are the best. Almonds with skins on, chia seeds and plenty of green veg are my source of fibre. I find I generally hit around 40g per day.

 

[donnellysdogs]

Ok... If you were to look up FODMAP for IBS on Dr Google you would find links to foods that can for some irritate the bowel..it also applys for constipation and / or loose bowels.
On your list above the apple, onion, cauliflower, mushrooms, brussel sprouts and Cabbage CAN BE detrimental to the stomach...
Caffeine drinks can also dehydrate stomachs.

Kings Cross Hospital have good info.

Some suitable fruits are:
Blueberries; cantaloupe melon; cranberry; grapefruit; honeydew melon; kiwi; lemon; lime; orange; raspberry; rhubarb and organic strawberrys.

Some suitable veg are:
Bamboo shoots; green beans; brocolli; carrot; celery; chives; cucumber; ginger; lettuce; marrow; olives; parsnip; parsley; spinach; squash; swede; sweet potato, yam, courgettes, tomatos.

Onions are the biggest no, no. Including in gravy...soup, marinades or sauces...

Lentils and chickpeas are also no go.

I'm not saying that you need to do this but it has so dramatically changed my stomach and bowel its truly unbelievable.

I have to eat rice crispies with lactose free milk. This is 32g carbs. I never used to eat breakfast but got told just to add this low fibre cereal in-although it is not normally recommended to have cereals....

The best thing though was adding in the 2 litres of water each day. I've always hated any cold drinks so this was horrendous for me initially but now I'm loving it.

I have 1 kiwi or 13 melon balls for lunch with alpro yogurt.

For tea I stay with my normal fish or chicken with salad with lettuce, rocket and spinach, cucumber, olives, avocado, cherry tomatoes and any colour pepper.With lashings of olive oil or a homemade olive oil dressing. Sometimes I may add an egg.

I used to love garlic and onions.. But I know now how bad they were for me...

I do vary with foods above and I don't find it limits my eating. Only if going out occasionally...

Eggs are ok with say chives for an omlette... Sometimes I bake peppers with pesto, sundried tomatoes and an egg in for breakfast. Sometimes I'll do an avocado souffle.

Ditchthecarb.com do a fantastic ebook if you subscribe to their website. Its for sweets and desserts ... And they are fantastic!! Truly!! I made a lemon coconut cake last night...



Hope the info helps and hope others may come aling and offer some advice too....

 

[Priam]

Ok... If you were to look up FODMAP for IBS on Dr Google you would find links to foods that can for some irritate the bowel..it also applys for constipation and / or loose bowels.
On your list above the apple, onion, cauliflower, mushrooms, brussel sprouts and Cabbage CAN BE detrimental to the stomach...
Caffeine drinks can also dehydrate stomachs.

Kings Cross Hospital have good info.

Some suitable fruits are:
Blueberries; cantaloupe melon; cranberry; grapefruit; honeydew melon; kiwi; lemon; lime; orange; raspberry; rhubarb and organic strawberrys.

Some suitable veg are:
Bamboo shoots; green beans; brocolli; carrot; celery; chives; cucumber; ginger; lettuce; marrow; olives; parsnip; parsley; spinach; squash; swede; sweet potato, yam, courgettes, tomatos.

Onions are the biggest no, no. Including in gravy...soup, marinades or sauces...

Lentils and chickpeas are also no go.

I'm not saying that you need to do this but it has so dramatically changed my stomach and bowel its truly unbelievable.

I have to eat rice crispies with lactose free milk. This is 32g carbs. I never used to eat breakfast but got told just to add this low fibre cereal in-although it is not normally recommended to have cereals....

The best thing though was adding in the 2 litres of water each day. I've always hated any cold drinks so this was horrendous for me initially but now I'm loving it.

I have 1 kiwi or 13 melon balls for lunch with alpro yogurt.

For tea I stay with my normal fish or chicken with salad with lettuce, rocket and spinach, cucumber, olives, avocado, cherry tomatoes and any colour pepper.With lashings of olive oil or a homemade olive oil dressing. Sometimes I may add an egg.

I used to love garlic and onions.. But I know now how bad they were for me...

I do vary with foods above and I don't find it limits my eating. Only if going out occasionally...

Eggs are ok with say chives for an omlette... Sometimes I bake peppers with pesto, sundried tomatoes and an egg in for breakfast. Sometimes I'll do an avocado souffle.

Ditchthecarb.com do a fantastic ebook if you subscribe to their website. Its for sweets and desserts ... And they are fantastic!! Truly!! I made a lemon coconut cake last night...

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Hope the info helps and hope others may come aling and offer some advice too....

Many thanks - this is very useful. I'll give it a try.

 

[donnellysdogs]

Some nuts can cause problems..
Agree totally with flaxseed and chia seed. I forgot to mention them. I add 2 tablespoons of flaxseed and 1 tablespoon of chia to my rice krispies.

Adding them years ago kept my stomach reasonably good. Due to cancer and ongoing problems from the biopsies I had to have morphine patches and the chia and flaxseed were just incapable of keeping my stomach going...it was only other members here that told me about FODMAP lifestyle that has so, so improved my stomach and bowels beyond anything that I could have wished for.

I have slow colonic transit anyway but the changes have been phenomenal for me.

I so hope @Priam that you can give it ago.... Don't expect a miracle on day one.. But by 5 days in you should see a difference-lol!!

I think possibly if you could avoid all the known causes listed above and try to eat ones that help it would be the best thing to do. You could then start to possibly reintroduce perhaps some foods if you wanted to and see their effects...

It may work, it may not...but it is definitely worth ago....

You can still lower carb...

 

[Priam]

Some nuts can cause problems..
Agree totally with flaxseed and chia seed. I forgot to mention them. I add 2 tablespoons of flaxseed and 1 tablespoon of chia to my rice krispies.

Adding them years ago kept my stomach reasonably good. Due to cancer and ongoing problems from the biopsies I had to have morphine patches and the chia and flaxseed were just incapable of keeping my stomach going...it was only other members here that told me about FODMAP lifestyle that has so, so improved my stomach and bowels beyond anything that I could have wished for.

I have slow colonic transit anyway but the changes have been phenomenal for me.

I so hope @Priam that you can give it ago.... Don't expect a miracle on day one.. But by 5 days in you should see a difference-lol!!

I think possibly if you could avoid all the known causes listed above and try to eat ones that help it would be the best thing to do. You could then start to possibly reintroduce perhaps some foods if you wanted to and see their effects...

It may work, it may not...but it is definitely worth ago....

You can still lower carb...

Thanks, again - I will give it a try.

 

[donnellysdogs]

Thanks, again - I will give it a try.

Keep in touch... Let us know how you get on. Feel free to private message me if you need any help.

Nothing worse than stomach / bowel problems...