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<blockquote data-quote="Spiritosl" data-source="post: 1708495" data-attributes="member: 256909"><p>Dulcis-dente, congratulations! </p><p>Have you checked the vitamin D3 level? It should be above 125 mmol/L. </p><p></p><p>Pregnancy and lactation</p><p></p><p>E. Obermere, a British gynaecologist, issued in 1947 the following statement <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn24" target="_blank">[24]</a>: “Until further experimental evidence, adequate and incontrovertible, is made available, I submit that we should play for safety. In a climate like that of England every pregnant woman should be given a supplement of vitamin D in doses of not less than 10,000 IU per day in the first 7 months, and 20,000 IU (per day) during the 8th and 9th months.”</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_ednref24" target="_blank">[24]</a> Obermer, E. Vitamin-D requirements in pregnancy. Br Med J. 1947 Dec 6;2(4535):927</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is equal to 250 µg per day during the first 7 months of pregnancy and 500 µg per day the last two months of pregnancy. No experimental evidence, adequate and incontrovertible, is made available hitherto to change the recommendations from 1947. Rather, the Finnish experiences from 1950th to 1975 had shown that children should have between 125 and 50 µg vitamin D3 is not only safe but helps preventing diabetes type 1 <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn25" target="_blank">[25]</a>. This is approximately 4 to 8 µg vitamin D3 per day and kg bodyweight.</p><p></p><p></p><p>During lactation the mother’s viamin D3 level should be maintained at or more than 125 nmol/L during lactation to ensure the vitamin D3 transfer via breast milk to he child.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Still, there are no further experimental evidence, adequate and incontrovertible, made available, so the best is to stick to Obermere\s recommendations.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a good and scientific method to quickly increase a low vitamin D3 level to a physiological level of at least 125 nmol/L. Have 15 000 µg (600 000 IE) as a single dose and within three days you have a physiological correct level of 125 nmol/L to 250 nmol/L of vitamin D3. See</p><p></p><p></p><p>Cipriani et al Effect of a Single Oral Dose of 600,000 IU of Cholecalciferol on Serum Calciotropic Hormones in Young Subjects with Vitamin D Deficiency: A Prospective Intervention Study.J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2010 Jul [21] <a href="http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2010-0502" target="_blank">http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2010-0502</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>In Finland in 1950th up to 1964 they recommended giving 125 µg to newborns without any symptoms of toxicity <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn8" target="_blank">[8]</a>. 125 µg to a newborn of 2,8 kg is equivalent to 3 125 µg to a 70 kg adult per day.</p><p></p><p></p><p>According to various reports the majority of the populations in many countries have levels of vitamin D3 below the “optimal” level of minimum 75 nmol/L <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn14" target="_blank">[14]</a>, also found in Norway by NNR5 and in Sweden <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn15" target="_blank">[15]</a>. But there are no reports of vitamin D3 levels below the higher physiological level of 125 nmol/L. This is embarrassing as there must be an even larger proportion of the populations that are deficient I vitamin D3. Also, the levels of vitamin D in Norway is shown to be too low, just 40 nmol/L <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn16" target="_blank">[16]</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A Finnish study giving 50 µg to newborns in 1966 reduced the incidence of diabetes type 1 by 78 % up to 30 years after birth <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn17" target="_blank">[17]</a>. 50 µg to a newborn of 2,8 kg is equivalent to 1 250 µg (or 50 000 IU) vitamin D3 per day to a 70 kg adult.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In Finland it is shown that an intake of 125-50 µg per day to infants was giving a very low incidence of diabetes type 1 <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn21" target="_blank">[21]</a>. When the vitamin D3-supplementation decreased in 1975 to 25 µg and in 1992 to a meagre 10 µg then diabetes type 1 has soared</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hyppönen E, Läärä E, Reunanen A, Järvelin MR, Virtanen SM. Intake of vitamin D and risk of type 1 diabetes: a birth-cohort study. Lancet 2001;358:1500 –3.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Vitamin D deficiency impairs insulin secretion and induces glucose intolerance. Several vitamin D related genes are associated with different pathogenetic traits of the disease <a href="https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn22" target="_blank">[22]</a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So have enough vitamin D3 to stabilize the P-glucose level. And then I would have minimum carbohydrates and add more animal fat, also called LCHF. This diet is perfect for pregnant women shown by Carl von Linne already in 1732. Then you don’t need as much insulin and don’t get any glucose lows due to an overdose of insulin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spiritosl, post: 1708495, member: 256909"] Dulcis-dente, congratulations! Have you checked the vitamin D3 level? It should be above 125 mmol/L. Pregnancy and lactation E. Obermere, a British gynaecologist, issued in 1947 the following statement [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn24'][24][/URL]: “Until further experimental evidence, adequate and incontrovertible, is made available, I submit that we should play for safety. In a climate like that of England every pregnant woman should be given a supplement of vitamin D in doses of not less than 10,000 IU per day in the first 7 months, and 20,000 IU (per day) during the 8th and 9th months.” [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_ednref24'][24][/URL] Obermer, E. Vitamin-D requirements in pregnancy. Br Med J. 1947 Dec 6;2(4535):927 This is equal to 250 µg per day during the first 7 months of pregnancy and 500 µg per day the last two months of pregnancy. No experimental evidence, adequate and incontrovertible, is made available hitherto to change the recommendations from 1947. Rather, the Finnish experiences from 1950th to 1975 had shown that children should have between 125 and 50 µg vitamin D3 is not only safe but helps preventing diabetes type 1 [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn25'][25][/URL]. This is approximately 4 to 8 µg vitamin D3 per day and kg bodyweight. During lactation the mother’s viamin D3 level should be maintained at or more than 125 nmol/L during lactation to ensure the vitamin D3 transfer via breast milk to he child. Still, there are no further experimental evidence, adequate and incontrovertible, made available, so the best is to stick to Obermere\s recommendations. There is a good and scientific method to quickly increase a low vitamin D3 level to a physiological level of at least 125 nmol/L. Have 15 000 µg (600 000 IE) as a single dose and within three days you have a physiological correct level of 125 nmol/L to 250 nmol/L of vitamin D3. See Cipriani et al Effect of a Single Oral Dose of 600,000 IU of Cholecalciferol on Serum Calciotropic Hormones in Young Subjects with Vitamin D Deficiency: A Prospective Intervention Study.J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2010 Jul [21] [URL]http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2010-0502[/URL] In Finland in 1950th up to 1964 they recommended giving 125 µg to newborns without any symptoms of toxicity [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn8'][8][/URL]. 125 µg to a newborn of 2,8 kg is equivalent to 3 125 µg to a 70 kg adult per day. According to various reports the majority of the populations in many countries have levels of vitamin D3 below the “optimal” level of minimum 75 nmol/L [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn14'][14][/URL], also found in Norway by NNR5 and in Sweden [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn15'][15][/URL]. But there are no reports of vitamin D3 levels below the higher physiological level of 125 nmol/L. This is embarrassing as there must be an even larger proportion of the populations that are deficient I vitamin D3. Also, the levels of vitamin D in Norway is shown to be too low, just 40 nmol/L [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn16'][16][/URL] A Finnish study giving 50 µg to newborns in 1966 reduced the incidence of diabetes type 1 by 78 % up to 30 years after birth [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn17'][17][/URL]. 50 µg to a newborn of 2,8 kg is equivalent to 1 250 µg (or 50 000 IU) vitamin D3 per day to a 70 kg adult. In Finland it is shown that an intake of 125-50 µg per day to infants was giving a very low incidence of diabetes type 1 [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn21'][21][/URL]. When the vitamin D3-supplementation decreased in 1975 to 25 µg and in 1992 to a meagre 10 µg then diabetes type 1 has soared Hyppönen E, Läärä E, Reunanen A, Järvelin MR, Virtanen SM. Intake of vitamin D and risk of type 1 diabetes: a birth-cohort study. Lancet 2001;358:1500 –3. Vitamin D deficiency impairs insulin secretion and induces glucose intolerance. Several vitamin D related genes are associated with different pathogenetic traits of the disease [URL='https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/file:///L:\4GBBj%C3%B6rn\J3\Moradoktorn\Artiklar\NNR5\Remissvar%204\Vitamin%20D%20%E2%80%93%20NNR%202012%20Public%20consultation%20BH1.doc#_edn22'][22][/URL]. So have enough vitamin D3 to stabilize the P-glucose level. And then I would have minimum carbohydrates and add more animal fat, also called LCHF. This diet is perfect for pregnant women shown by Carl von Linne already in 1732. Then you don’t need as much insulin and don’t get any glucose lows due to an overdose of insulin. [/QUOTE]
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