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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sean_Raymond" data-source="post: 1469055" data-attributes="member: 403497">I agree - due to the CHO content in fruit very low CHO to ketogenic diets should omit them. Get the amount of allowable CHO from vegetables. From a vitamin point of view, veggies outdo fruit - fruit is just a fantastic source of Vitamin C. The loss of fibre from no fruit intake can also be made up by vegetables. In terms of antioxidants and polyphenols - fruit IS a great source of these however their potential in health is only beginning to be realised & in my opinion provide a great reason to consume fruit if you can.The only concern I do have from a low CHO/ketogenic diet is the potential lack of fibre - effects of fibre upon the flora and fauna of our gut is an exciting area in nutrition, with many of the discussed conditions such diabetes having at least some link within microbiome disbiosis and associated dysfunction. I am not experienced enough in ketogenic diets to have considered fibre intake however it would seem possible to get 18-30g per day from such diets?I am a Dietitian, have been qualified for almost 3 years, only now have I started to find the confidence to  begin exploring nutrition beyond the boundaries set by the strict guidance we must adhere to. Low CHO is starting to be discussed more, and my training actually pushed me to consider the metabolic effects of CHO - sadly this becomes lost once qualified and many Dietitians, so talented and so well trained, unfortunately seem to become very inflexible in their approaches. Some of this is imposed upon by the need to remain qualified (so employable) and only promote 'evidence' based advice to remain 'safe'. Low CHO is evidence based in my view.I have a deep interest in nutrition and have joined this forum for a few reasons, to help - but to learn. People like you will teach me more than a book will. I am well aware of that. Theory is great - but I have to understand how to integrate this into a practical manner. I can see you have lost almost 30kg - that is a remarkable accomplishment, especially in under 18 months. Well done. That in itself is something I know I could learn a lot from because I have never managed that with any of my patients/clients.The experiment you mentioned is redundant from a diet point of view, because we do not eat 100% fructose as you say - however it would help dispel concern over fructose and blood sugar. The studies have been done for us regarding this. But I may do it myself as I can get access to blood monitors pretty easily. I will let you know.Sorry for rambling.</blockquote>

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