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eurorider

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Diabetes....!!!
Where do I start ?
Diagnosed last night by my Doc as type 2 :(

41 years old, slighty overweight, never had any medical problems before, in fact I've been blessed with great health up till now so this came as a bit of a surprise.

Got a meeting with the diabetes nurse next week for more info, feeling a bit shell shocked.
 
Hi eurorider,

Your reaction is typical, it is a shock and it is something that none of us wanted to hear. Once you get to grips with it you will find that it is not one of the worse chronic conditions and you will still be able to lead a full and active life. 20% of newly diagnosed type 2's are not overweight and there are strong genetic links.

Here is some information that the Monitors have put together concerning diet etc.. and it may be of help to you.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17088

It makes sense and if you have any questions then please ask, nothing considered silly.

Look forward to your contributions to the forum.
 
Welcome eurorider
The innital shock is a daunting thought however the score of 7 isnt bad ("i was diagnosed nearly 5 wk ago with a score of 29 :) " . You will meet very experienced forum members on this site of all age groups .Have a good look around and any?'s just ask :D .
once again welcome 8) JF.
 
Gobsmacked, shell shocked, lots of different names for how you feel right now...It's natural, we all felt the same when dx...My nurse/practioner said to me...while I was crying in her office, Yes, it's a biggy but it's a controlable biggy...She's right about that...Out of all the chronic deseases out there, this would be the best one to have (my opinion)...Once you get your head round it, you will see that... My advice would be...Take your time looking around this site, post as many questions as you want to...Really digest (pardon the pun) the info given and you will come to terms with it all very quickly...It's a life style change, a change for the better in my opinion...Good luck!

wobblyme :)
 
Hi and welcome aboard.

Another type two here, diagnosed in January. I have always been mildly overweight but otherwise healthy. I ate the sort of diet recommended as healthy - lots of fruit and veg, complex carbohydrates etc etc and did a reasonable amount of exercise. When I was trying to lose weight for my wedding a couple of years ago I did the whole strict diet and lots of exercise thing and it made not a jot of difference :(

I started monitoring my blood sugars 11 days ago, now on day 12. I monitor on waking, pre meal, and 2 hours post meal.I write it down, plus what I eat with a estimate carb count. I also take a note of anything I do in the way of exercise, mostly walking (I also got a pedometer with a view to achieving the 10 000 steps a day commonly recommended for good health). I'm very much regarding all this as a fact finding mission and hope not to be doing all that pin sticking in a couple of months time :lol:

On the basis of what I have noticed I have changed what I eat quite a bit, both in terms of what type of food and how often (eg, a banana eaten in one go pushes my blood sugar right up but I can have half a banana with my breakfast and the other half as a mid afternoon snack without it doing any damage)

Out of interest I just had a quick shufty at my blood results whilst I've been doing this. The average waking BM for the first 6 mornings was 7.1 and three of the readings were over 7. The average for the last 6 mornings was 5.9 and none of the readings were over 7. The three highest blood sugars I recorded in the first 6 days were 10.8, 11 and 12.5. The three highest I recorded in the last five completed days were 8.2, 8.4 and 9.8 [though I must confess to having had a carby blow out a couple of days ago and being too unhappy about it to do the 2 hour one which I'm sure would have been bad :oops: ]

Some of the stuff I've found is University of the Bloomin' Obvious type stuff - eg if I've been for a good long walk (two or three miles) I can eat a lot more carbs without it impacting on the 2 hour reading. Yes, someone could have told me that but I find it's a lot easier to make the right decisions based on my own real experience

When I was a brand newby someone told me to monitor as knowledge is power. I'm a real convert to that one, even in as short a time as I've been doing it I feel that the changes I've made on the basis of the things I've learned have made a difference and I think the numbers back me up.

Welcome aboard, take it as slowly or as fast as you need to, read, think and ask questions and you'll be fine.
 
Hello Eurorider
Yes it is a HUGE shock when you first get told, especially if you didn't see it coming. You might find yourself going into denial initially but when you begin to realise that this is it and you're stuck with it then this forum is the very best place to turn to. The advice is amazing and can literally change your life around. There is always someone ready to give an answer or just make you feel part of a warm and friendly community. Hope this makes you realise that you're not alone!
Gill
 
Thank again everyone, especially primmers, reading your reply was inspiring.

My first question is my fasting blood glucose level was 8.9mm, is that bad so to speak ?

Should I start checking my blood now or should I wait to see the diet quack & diabetes specialist next wee. ? I'm hoping to keep things in control by diet & lifestyle changes.
 
The NICE Guidelines recommend that well motivated Type 2 diabetics can be prescribed monitors, lancets and strips to help them make diet and lifestyle adjustments to see whether they can manage their diabetes without meds. As the cost of lancets and strips can mount up (I've just paid £20 for 50 strips and £11 for 200 lancets) if you can get the medics to agree you should test and prescribe a monitor, strips and lancets you will save yourself some cash. Unfortunately the SIGN guidelines (Scotland's NICE) don't have the same recommendation and my GP visit didn't encourage me to ask. Look at sugarless sue's thread

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002

for good arguments.

Don't know enough about absolute fasting blood values to answer how good or bad 8.9 is but my feeling is that you probably need to think in terms of trends rather than one offs. I was diagnosed on the basis of a Glucose Tolerance Test which gave a fasting blood of 7.1 and a 2 hour after set dose of carbs reading of 11.4. I think both of these are not far above the diagnostic limits. Upthread JustFocus reports a blood sugar of 29 and elsethread I've seen someone reporting the Doc wanting to send him/her to hospital with a reading in the mid twenties.

Might be an idea to start keeping a food diary to see whether you can spot any obvious naughties, but think in terms of overall carbohydrate values rather than sugar value of the food you're eating. I think that achieving good control is going to involve a lot of effort in the short term (thinking about what you choose to eat, looking at the carb values, thinking about portion sizes, keeping a note and testing about 6 times a day) but once you've been doing it for a wee while it should become second nature. Also, make a habit of writing down what your blood results from blood tests done at the GPs are to help you keep track of how things are going.

And this really is a fabby place to ask questions, I've learned so much from what I've read in here.
 
Welcome to a whole new world :D
I was diagnosed officially 2 weeks ago but I'm aware that I'd probably escaped being labeled for a long time.
I see the diagnosis as a blessing. I will now get my life, weight and diet in order because I have to. There's no putting it off until tomorrow.
I was dreading controlling my carbs and being on a life long diet. Since reducing my carbs drastically I feel so much better and more alive than I've felt for a long time. My body seems quite happy with the change of diet and I'm not having any pangs of hunger or cravings. Better still my blood sugars are better which will protect me in the long term.
Agree with the others that testing has given me knowledge and control over this. I feel that I have power over it rather than it taking control over me
good luck
janey x
 
Just a quick update on my situation. I was not completely convinced by my doctors diagnoses, so much so that I decided to ask a friend who is a heamatologist to have a look at at my results and give me some feedback. I specifically asked her to look at my fasting glucose level. Below is her reply word for word.

"Hiya

Well I'm sorry to be boring but basically you need to cut out the drinking, eat more healthily and exercise!!

I chatted to the clinical biochemist today and she said that your results reflect your lifestyle, and that as you get older (ahem!) your body is less able to deal with the junk you feed it.
The only result she was mildy concerned about was your ferritin (iron). But that can be caused by beer drinking. As is your high MCV, MCH and the raised ALT.
MCV and MCH = the size of your red blood cells and how much haemoglobin they carry. Alcohol interferes with the synthesis of red blood cells.
ALT = a liver enzyme often associated with alcohol excess

Obviously the cholesterol is high due to less than ideal eating practices(!!). The LDL is high which is the bad cholesterol. This can be reduced by exercising. Diabetes is generally caused by diet and alcohol.

I hope I don't sound like I'm preaching.....I go to the gym all the time now - classes, badminton, squash, swimming, cycling - and it gives me a real high. I don't want to eat **** or drink, I just want to get fitter!! Maybe if you give a few things a go you'll find the one that suits you. It gets you hooked as you want to improve and then you get all 'holier than thou' (me!)

Any way, I hope the results gave you a kick up the **** and haven't left you feeling that 'I can't do anything now'. I hope you can find your highs in other things (legal ;))

There was nothing sinister in your results, they reflect the general population!!

Good luck in your endeavours....I expect to see miles cycled and laps swum in your status updates!!
xx
oh - and let me know if there's anything else you want to know :o)"


Interesting reading :shock: dont you think.

My ferrotin levels are high due to taking iron tablets, I dont drink beer.
No mention at all of my blood glucose levels, yet the doctor last week was running round the office like I was going to die !!!!! :shock:

What do you guys think ??????
 
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