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Gone from Glucose Intolerant to Diabetic in 2 weeks

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Tinytoez

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Hi All
I posted 2 weeks ago about how I had been diagnosed Glucose Intolerant but wasnt convinced I wasnt Diabetic.
Well yesterday I went for a 2 week check with the nurse at the surgery.
I had also recieved a letter about one of my many test results asking me to speak to someone about them.
I took a water sample with me to check that I still didnt have a water infection and mentioned the letter, and was told it was because the blood taken at the hospital was 10 and my cholesterol was high, I knew this anyway as they told me when I was at A&E. I mentioned to the nurse that I was having symptoms of Hypo and Hyper attacks and that if I was just Glucose Intolerant, from what I had read I shouldnt be, and she said that from the hospital test I was actually Diabetic, she took a Hba1c sample, told me to carry on monitoring as I had been and recording what I had eaten and how I felt in my diary and come back in 2 weeks,and to eat small meals every 2 hours including some carbs as my pancreas was still working, but was getting sluggish so by eating I would kick start it into producing insulin, that was yesterday.

Today I woke up got ready for work, tested my blood and ate a bowl of Shredded Wheats with Skimmed Milk, then went to work, by the time I got there I was feeling "High" so I tested my blood and I had shot through the roof, I tested again as I felt like my sugar had gone down and it had, but half an hour later I felt like it had gone back up and it had, which totally confused me, at 11.45 I had a fruit cereal bar and a Ryvita with Philidelphia light, then at 12 before I left work I had another one, by this time my sugar had dropped. When I got home I had 3 Ryvita and 4 little Skippers Brisling fish in Tomato Sauce from a tin.

I was so concerned I called the pharmacist as I wasnt sure what to do, and he told me to eat normally, but I need to see the nurse ASAP, my fingers were clean and I dont think my machine is playing up.

What do I do when that happens, as I felt really rough but wasnt sure if I should eat or not.
And should this be happening?
Here are my readings.

7.0 @ 7.29 am - waking
7.30 am - Ate Mini Shredded Wheat and Skimmed Milk
Started feeling odd
12.9 @ 8.48 am - arrived at work
Still feeling odd
10.3 @ 9.29 am
Felt like sugar was rising
11.4 @ 10.02 am
10.1 @ 10.28 am
7.4 @ 10.51
5.3 @ 11.54
Ate 1 fruit and cereal bar and 1 Ryvita with Philidelphia
5.7 @ 12.13
Drove Home
13.00 - Ate 3 Ryvita with 4 skippers Brisling fish.

I know this is a lot of readings but I was worried and wasnt sure what was happening, and Im still not.
 
Tinytoez said:
7.0 @ 7.29 am - waking
7.30 am - Ate Mini Shredded Wheat and Skimmed Milk
Started feeling odd
12.9 @ 8.48 am - arrived at work
Still feeling odd
10.3 @ 9.29 am
Felt like sugar was rising
11.4 @ 10.02 am
10.1 @ 10.28 am
7.4 @ 10.51
5.3 @ 11.54
Ate 1 fruit and cereal bar and 1 Ryvita with Philidelphia
5.7 @ 12.13
Drove Home
13.00 - Ate 3 Ryvita with 4 skippers Brisling fish.

I know this is a lot of readings but I was worried and wasnt sure what was happening, and Im still not.
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Here's what I think happened, you had a big bowl of carbohydrate, and it spiked your blood for the next three hours. Now you know for sure that your beat up pancreas can't tolerate shredded wheat, so you can cross it off the list of "things I can eat".

It's a pity you didn't take a 1 hour and 2 hour eating after eating the fruit and cereal bar, because you'd probably have found that that would also have caused a big old spike too.

Need to start reducing the amount of carb you are eating dude...
 
So what do I do to try and bring this sugar down when it goes up like that?
Am I actually Diabetic from that?
 
Will eating when high have any effect (as in kick my pancreas into insulin production)?
 
Tinytoez said:
So what do I do to try and bring this sugar down when it goes up like that?
Am I actually Diabetic from that?
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Well I can't diagnose you, because I'm not a Doctor, but if your BG is over 10mmol/l 3 hours after eating shredded wheat, then it seems highly likely.

Tinytoez said:
Will eating when high have any effect (as in kick my pancreas into insulin production)?
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Eating more carbs will just make your BG go even higher. As a T2, you probably pump out loads of insulin anyway, the trouble is that your cells are insulin resistant, so the insulin can't do it's job, which is to clear excess sugar from the blood.

You can safely eat foods with low-carbohydrate content (ones that consist mainly of protein and fat), as they won't significantly increase your BG.
 
Thanks, thats kind of what i was thinking, I was just at a loss as to what to do at work today, so had to ride it out and felt pants in the mean time. The nurse told me that my pancreas is working, its just not producing insulin all the time, which is where the small regular meals is meant to help.
I guess it is more common sense than I was thinking it was, but then I didnt know what I was thinking when I felt bad.
I didnt think I was actually meant to get low or high symptoms, a friend has told me Im not "bad" with them levels, but she is badly controlled and on insulin.
 
You have to start looking at the carbohydrate content on the back of the packet. High carbs food will cause spikes in your BGs. High means a carb content that spikes you, I don't eat things that will give me more than say, 20gm of carb at any one meal, and less if I can.
That 20gm includes everything that I might eat. No eating between meals unless it is something low carb like nuts or sugar free yoghourt etc.

So start by looking at the carbs you are eating, if you need to check any foods out there are many carb content websites you can visit.

As regards "glucose intolerant" or "pre-diabetic" it is my opinion, and my opinion only, that you are either normal and not diabetic or you are diabetic. In your case and from the readings you provide you are diabetic and probably T2.

You will certainly be able to control your Bgs by diet and excercise, so start by eating less carbohydrates and walking for 20 minutes a day, fast, so you get out of breath.

It is all a bit confusing to start with but you will soon get the hang of it.

I am not a doctor, and cannot diagnose your diabetes. Only your doctor can do that.

I hope my comments have helped a bit.

H
 
Tinytoez
You may well find that a low carb/high fat diet suits you, because fats keep you from being hungry and DO NOT raise blood glucose, which proteins can.
A good guide to low carb/high fat, is any of the Atkins diet books or Dr. Bernstein's diabetes solution, which is the Bible for many of us but isn't exactly cheap. Plus libraries often don't have it.
If you want to learn the rationale behind low carb/high fat, read GaryTaubes's book "Good Calories Bad Calories" It's a scholarly book and well worth the effort. It also has hundreds of reference to research work.
Hana
 
Hi there,
most T"'s will get similar results to this, 2 to 3 hrs after eating, then the blood sugars start dropping as our own insulin finally starts doing it's job. Knowing that it will settle down fairly quickly I tend notto worry about or do anything about it, although I am on meds so slightly different to your case. Personalyl I wouldn't advocate the use of high fat items to help with hunger pangs, but that is a personal decision as my lipids are borderline and I don't wanrt to increase me statin dose.
 
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