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Got my results back

Hi jaquirs,

I'm really impressed by your determination to get to grips with this thing. I'm certain you'll find big improvements very quickly and you've already got a big readership out here on t'interweb.
Eagerly awaiting the next installment.......

fergus
 
I would be as fat as a pig if I ate all that lot!

It really amuses me, what dieticians/diabetics nurses/doctors say I should eat. I already have a Body Mass Index of 32 and eat about HALF the quantity of food they tell me to eat and that is listed below. I even have difficulty breathing when in bed, due to the excess weight on my abdomen (I have asthma too) yet I am told to eat TWICE as much! They must all be bonkers. :lol:

berrylover said:
The suggested eating plan goes like this,

Breakfast
Fruit or small glass of fruit juice
Bread/Toast
Cereal with Milk

Midday
Bread or Potatoes or Pasta or Rice
Vegetables/Salad
Portion of Meat or Fish or Eggs or Cheese or Baked Beans
Fruit or low sugar pudding

Evening
Same as luch

Bed time
If you need a snack have something starchy such as Slice of Toast or Fruit

Drinks
Choose low sugar hot/cold drinks throughout the day.

So far today I have had

A slice of toast and a cup of tea for breakfast

A Wholemeal tuna sandwich (no mayo) and an apple for lunch

Am having Stir Fry with a small portion of noodles for dinner and some fruit after.
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Dear berrylover
I haven't chipped in before, because I've been sunning myself in Spain for a week.
However. what you write is typical of uncontrolled diabetes. Waking up fine. BG at your lower end. eating; taking an hour or so for digestion and the glucose to hit ; then the lead weights come down High BG.
What did you eat?
did you follow the "medical" advice?
Try OUR WAY
Have an egg for breakfast. If you feel the need to watch the fats( which you don't really need to)then boil or poach the egg. Otherwise have a great fry-up. Eggs, bacon, tomatoes, mushrooms, a good quality sausage.Black pudding even. Get the kids to help cook it. NO toast or fried potatoes. No cereal.
Nothing there to put up BG in an hour. You'll have the energy to vacuum a whole house, walk the dog ( borrow one!) weed the garden. Have mid morning coffee with cream, no sugar,NO biscuits or cake. Go out do the shopping.
Light lunch, piece of cold meat, or cheese and a salad. Have a lovely afternoon. Meet the kids from school. Have a cup of tea together. They get ALL the cake. Homework and after school activities. go play in the park. join in the football.
Dinner Loads of veggies, some meat, or fish. Fresh fruit for dessert. Potatoes, ONLY for the kids.
You'll get used to it and find it's good for the kids too.
There are plenty of ways to keep on budget, which isn't easy these days. Canned meat and fish or frozen are often cheaper than fresh and just as nutritious. Watch the nutrition information for carbohydrates. you can probably eat a LITTLE, but positively NOthing with sugar.( If it says over 5 g per 100 g of food; be very careful with it.
If you don't buy snack foods( usually full of carbs) you can focus your shopping on the stuff you need. It may be a surprise, but New potates have fewer carbs than old ones.
The Collins little Gem Carb counter book, isn' expensive and full of all the info you need.
As to the medics, You have a RIGHT to measure your own BG whilst you are learning what to eat and what not to.
If they've decided you are a T2, then they'll try not to let you have a meter and test strips and they'll warn you off our advice.
Try it out. their advice WON'T make you feel better. OURS WILL
As to portions. Use your kitchen scales to weigh out what youare going to eat. remember what that looks like.
If you're any good at mental arithmetic you will soon know how many carbs you can handle without feeling ill.

Read everything you can get your hands on. If it starts with "Eat plenty of complex carbohydrates with every meal": bin it!
Look up low carb recipes on-line
Get the kids on-side. Explain that certain foods make MUM ill and get them to think of menus where they can have rice and pasta and potatoes and you will still have a delicious meal without.
 
hanadr said:
Otherwise have a great fry-up. Eggs, bacon, tomatoes, mushrooms, a good quality sausage.Black pudding even. Get the kids to help cook it. NO toast or fried potatoes. No cereal.
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Strange though it may seem for people indoctrinated in the whole "fat is evil" school of thought, this sort of meal is pretty good for you - especially for diabetics. For years I have rarely used my frying pan - avoiding this sort of fare like the plague. Now it sees daily service! However, do be careful of hidden carbohydrates. Don't have too many tomatoes - they have more sugar in them than many vegetables (actually, this is because they are fruit). One or two won't do you any harm, but don't have a plateful. I would add baked beans to the list of things to avoid - they are something that many people think of as part of a traditional cooked breakfast, and they are quite high in carbohydrate. Be careful of both bacon ad sausages - check the nutritional label. Bacon is extremely low in carbohydrate - unless it has been cured in sugar. Some upmarket bacon is, and if that is the case then it can be very bad indeed. Sausages are low in carbohydrate, providing they are almost 100% meat (hence the advice for good quality sausages). Cheap sausages tend to have filler which is some sort of cereal - and again these can be pretty bad. So, the rule of thumb is get expensive sausages but cheap bacon!
 
Thanks again guys for all your advice, I phoned the makers of the Optimum x-ceed (soley cos my type 1 friend had a load of test strips for it and said I could have a box) and they said they would send a meter out free of charge! Nice one! (owt for nowt me, that's with being a single parent, if you don't nail it down we will be off with it, lol)

I am trying to tell the girls all about what I need to do, how eating the wrong things can have a reaction with me, and that I need to exercise and they are encouraging me no end, and helping me stay away from confectionary and crisp (by eating them themselves, lol).

I am at the dietician on friday. What can I expect, apart from being patronised and spoken to like all I eat is junk food and stuff (well what do you expect I am a fatty, my doctor more or less said that didn't he?) Will I be weighed? Will she try and convince me to have a high carb diet? Will she set a weight loss that she expects me to achieve? Oh I hate these types of appointments. I don't need to be told I am overweight and need to lose, I am not blind, or stupid. I just need the support to do it. When I joined the surgery in July they weighed me but I asked them not to say what I weighed, but when I was there last week I saw that they have my weight goal as 63kg, and I know I am lightyears away from that, and that makes me feel rubbish.

Apart from that though I am more upbeat about the whole thing and have lived for 6 days now with no chocolate (something I never thought I could do) YAY ME!
 
Set your own weigh lose goals!!A little at a time that you know you can achieve. 8lbs,1 stone? whatever.It's not one straight road,it's lots of little short ones.Cut down the portion sizes.Put out your usual portion then physically cut it in half.Keep the carbs down to a level that you feel comfortable with.Good luck and we are all behind you on this.
 
Berry,

I have cut down on the carbs, and the weight is coming off all on its own!! Don't be rude with the dietician / diabetes specialist nurse / doctor, but don't take everything they say as gospel. Be polite .... smile, nod, agree, then go home and do what you know in your heart is right. :P

A lot of the guys on this website have had years and years of experience, myself included, and I'm still re-learning a lot now, but we will all support one another the best way we know how - by sharing experiences and giving advice.

Don't get in a knot about these 'visits' to the professionals. They will give you the advice they are obliged to give .. Other diabetics will give advice based on living with this condition and personal experiences.

Well done you for getting a free BM machine. I know how you feel with the single parent thing - things are getting worse by the day, aren't they?? I'll be knitting jumpers next to avoid putting the heating on .... mind you, the price of wool has rocketed recently ...Aaarrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!

:mrgreen: Glad to hear you're feeling happier, anyway - keep up the good work!,
 
Hey claire, I walk around the market with my mam and say "oooh that wool is nice, it would look lovely in a jumper for ............. (whichever child is in need of a jumper, lol)" and hey presto, 3 weeks later a lovely wooly pully for whichever daughter appears. Myself I tried to knit squares for Blue Peter when I was a kid but they always ended up as a kind of triangle with a neck hole in it, :lol:
 
Heheh. Lucky you - my kids wont wear knitted jumpers anymore - not hip and trendy enough.

Me n my hubby on the other hand, we love them! Problem is, we only really like Aran patterns, so it takes me months to do one, not weeks!!!!!
 
hey guys progress to report!

Firstly have stayed off all recognisable carbs for the whole weekend, bacon eggs and mushrooms for breakfast, meat cheese and salad of some description at lunch and then more of the same for dinner

Only prob today is that i don't think i've eaten enough as feeling quite hungry but will have some strawberries and cream soon

Two other bits of news, been to the spotlight second session today with the nurse, first thing she checked with all of us was did we remember to eat carbs with every meal! i had a job to keep the gob shut but did. she then asked if any of us were self testing and said it was very good that none of us were, apparently we need to save our poor fingers for later :!:

i did say that i was concerned that i did not know how things were going and had no guidance about what to watch ie don't o/d on carbs which i'm sure i did last week, told really to watch portion sizes

anyhow more interesting i got my new testing machine tonight, too late to do a real test but already within an hour of eating my level is 13.8 compared with 21.6 when i saw the doc about 4 weeks ago so it looks like i may be on track. Am going to monitor very carefully this week and already have a comparison test for breakfasts lined up for the next few days.

also my lovely husband made a gorgeous no pasta lamb lasagne tonight which was yum, i ate more than him. let me know if you want the recipe and i will write it out on here.

the proper testing starts tomorrow so will see how it goes but am now firmly up for the challenge

jacqui
 
you can use "aparently" use leaves from a nice cabbage instead of lasagne sheets ... mid you if it turns out anything like the slop that I managed to create - instead of "courgette pasta ribbons" ... then maybe not a good thing ;) ... anyone had courgette ribbons turn out nice? instead of mush? advice would be gratefully received?!?!
 
Jem, did you maybe slice the courgettes too thinly? I have made lasagna with either cougettes or aubergines instead of the pasta and found that if you cut the courgettes or aubergines lengthways quite thickly they dont go mushy and you can kind of kid yourself quite well that you are eating a lasagna made with pasta.
You can also get carb reduced pasta sheets, from the low carb megastore, its Dreamfields brand.

All the best

Karen
 
I think I may have razered the little green sods a bit too harshly KAren!

it said in the recipe to use a potato peeler ;)

so I did --- but in my extremely tight way of peeling they all came out really skinny ... I thought I would just steam them for less time but it still came out as mush! next time I use my sharp knife ;)

will defo try sheets of courgette for lasagne next time - little bit more my scene than cabbage! only cabbage I actually like is raw purple cabbage in a salad ;)

will also check out the low carb megastore - what's your opinion of their postage service and cost? I found one or two specialist sites online to be a bit pricey ...

cheers!

J/xx
 
Jem, yes these stores are a bit expensive really, but worth mabye just once so that you know at least what they stuff tastes like

I tried slicing the courgettes and aubergines with a peeler, but they were too thin, so now I slice them about half a centimetre thick or so, I dont boil or steam them first, I just sprinkle the aubergines with a bit of salt and let them stand for 30 mins to bleed a bit because once or twice I got some that were so bitter, YUK
Then just layer the meat and sauce and 'aubergine sheets' keeping the mixture a bit dry, and then just bake until the aubergine is soft but not mushy, it works really well

Love

Karen x
 
cheers chic!

I may try out some of those low-carb store things at some point - really trying to make a go of it at home as much as possible first ...

I will defo try the lasagne with courgette - not really a fan of aubergine though, had it about 6 nights in a row on my (long time ago now) secondary school walking trip where we stayed in a youth hostel - their only vegetarian "option" was ratatouille ... once was ok, 6 nights in a row was not! put me off aubergine (especially as they didn't sweat the bitterness out) for a loooooooooooong time!!

will remember to cut thicker!

oh and being as I used to make my lasagne sauce with milk and cornflour and cheese - what's the alternative? just use a semi=soft cheese or try making a roux base with some weird floury arrangement? lol

don't want much do I hahaha

cheers and best, JEm xox
 
Oh my gosh. I never thought my thread would turn into a mother's meeting talking about aubergines, courgettes and knitting, and I'm only 34!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

Am still alive, drove my brother to uni at Leeds on saturday, had my mam forcing me to do housework today (nasty lady that she is, hehehe) and have agreed to a sleepover for my 10 year old daughter next weekend (at least I have 10 days or so to prepare myself for that horror :shock: ) .
 
urm, on the subject of knitting ... well ... mine doesn't even have the right kinda head holes in it lovey, just big uneven lumpy stitches! have inheritied my Nan's ancient sewing machine so we'll see what horrors I can inflict upon the world with my creations ;)

yep, I'm, 34 also and never uite expected the domestication that has settled upon me !!

grrr nasty mom ... mine's going away for a year soon :( buuhuuuuuu so she's being really nice at the mo ;) even if she keeled over laughing at the shopping I'd left at her house when I went off and got diagnosed. two tubs of ice cream and a big pack of kitkats ... which my hub picked up the following day - they were evilly laughing! meanies :)

hope you're doing well today hun :) and I have to tell you that I lovestrawberries ... given your name it seemed pertinent!

xxx
 
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