briped
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
That is so discouraging. Did you tell him or her that?
That is so discouraging. Did you tell him or her that?My new doctor now just says 'lose weight' without noticing that I have lost 3-4 stones already.
You rebel you .... well done!
I'm tempted to join a local one just to be an undercover agitator and leave lots of keto meal ideas around with links to diet doctor.. but don't want to give them my money...
No I didn't. I am stronger now and will do so next time he says it.That is so discouraging. Did you tell him or her that?
We are all supposed to have one, although it may not be him/her we see at every appointment. Have you asked at the surgery? I have seen mine stated on various NHS forms.I’m not sure who my ‘named’ GP is - each month when we pick our prescriptions up we play GP lottery and see whose name is on the prescription as it seems to change every month - we had a locum once and he’s only in the practice once a fortnight!
In that situation my silence would've had more to do with being flabbergasted, and figuring out how to reply a couple of hours later, which is one thing that really annoys me about myself.No I didn't. I am stronger now and will do so next time he says it.
Hindsight is always grand - NOTIn that situation my silence would've had more to do with being flabbergasted, and figuring out how to reply a couple of hours later, which is one thing that really annoys me about myself.
Well, Jason Fung seems to manage by longer fasting and Prof Taylor, Newcastle uses 800 Cal's per day for a number of weeks.That’s a bold statement to make which is not necessarily true particularly if there is an underlying problem. I was told a few years ago by a consultant that I was one of his few patients who could truly blame their metabolism for their weight and I would find it almost impossible to lose any weight without my body going into starvation mode and shutting down - which was why my GP sent me to him in the first place. He gave me a stark choice - eat healthily and stay as I was ie overweight or go on a low calorie diet and accept the consequences. Needless to say I chose the former!
Just had a thought. Because I've been obese all my life I'm not best hjudge of whether I get less gp time due to obesity. I know no different.
However, I may not need longer than 10mins with gp, at times but I definitely need MORE appointments than a non-obese patient, maybe.
Thin people get type2, thyroid problems, PCOS, asthma, high blood pressure, mild heart disease, neuropathy, scatica, nipper S1 in back, thrush, infections and IBS with GERD. These effect all kinds of patients. All sizes.
love the new avatarHindsight is always grand - NOT
Not nearly as glam as my last incarnation, for surelove the new avatarI nearly didn't recognise you though
I have to say that even though there are signs saying the appointments are for only ten minutes, when I have needed more time I have had more. One such time was when I had an appointment with an HCP who during the appointment just picked up on the fact that I was depressed ( I hadn't even realised) . She asked a doctor to see me even though I didn't have an appointment with him and he assured me that as it was almost lunch time I could stay as long as I needed to because he had no more appointments until later.Hi Ickyhun,
When you take your children and yourself to the GPs, or have several issues, GPs to me are very reasonable if you want more time especially if the diabetic team can't deal with it.
I assume you will feel like I do about taking up too much time when there may be a sick child starting with unrecognised sepsis and a parent trying to get an appointment and they are put off till the next day because I hogged more time to give the GP a diatribe on my health issues.
Some parents don't always opt to go to casualty when they should.
One tends to think what one is to say and tries to speak succinctly.
best wishes for the op.
Derek
Do you take HRT for your menopausal symptoms? I found it helped with mine.I respectfully suggest that if a GP suspects a complex and on going condition, like type 2 diabetes, for example, they schedule double appointments, meet their patients over several appointments, and see that all relevant tests are carried out.
I do not think anyone is suggesting that such treatment and diagnosis takes place within a single 10 min appointment.
Taking one look at us, telling us the problem is we are fat, and dismissing the possibility of other health conditions is not on, time constraints not withstanding. There is no excuse for a doctor to state they cannot do their job properly. They are either doctors, or they are not.
My mechanic spent more time checking out a problem with my car than my GP did checking out my health, despite numerous obvious symptoms and research by me, because I am fat, and menopausal, and a woman.
It is not my job to make my GP do their job properly.
I don't think anyone on this thread would deny the laws of physics but there is more to fat loss than the Eat less;and Move More mantra that lean people and doctors parrot to overweight people who then either give up completely after serial failed diets, berate themselves for their gluttony and sloth, lack of willpower or self diagnose as 'addicts'.
Fortunately we can find for ourselves about different ways to help our metabolism such as those mentioned above via our wonderful new media but it seems wrong that if half of what trainee doctors learn is either out of date in 5 years or simply missing from the curriculum (nutrtion and causes of diabetic obesity) the mechanisms for keeping up to date seem to rely on busy GPs training themselves or on drug companies reps educating them.
"I respectfully suggest that if a GP suspects a complex and on going condition, like type 2 diabetes, for example, they schedule double appointments, meet their patients over several appointments, and see that all relevant tests are carried out.Do you take HRT for your menopausal symptoms? I found it helped with mine.
Derek. What I find is 800cals of bread for instance e.g Toast will not lose me any weight. Cabbage soup diet with potatoes added doesn't either. For me.Well, Jason Fung seems to manage by longer fasting and Prof Taylor, Newcastle uses 800 Cal's per day for a number of weeks.
If you expend more energy than you input we all should lose weight unless we have discovered perpetual motion.
D.
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