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Greetings From A Newbie Type 2 - Been Diagnosed A Few Days Ago, Bewildered...

Discussion in 'Greetings and Introductions' started by Michael3, Jul 1, 2018.

  1. Michael3

    Michael3 · Newbie

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    Greetings from East Yorkshire.
    Just a few days ago I’ve opened a post, upon returning from a lovely sunny beach holiday on the north coast, with a note from a GP saying I’ve been diagnosed as Type 2...

    Since then I’ve been binge reading here determined to bring my level down as just crossed the line (4.8) - I’m hugely encouraged and inspired by you all since joining this forum yesterday. I reckon it’s been coming but feeling daunting by the reality that I’d let my pre diabetic condition come to this. Gutted (pun intended).

    Tomorrow, a session with a specialist at a local Diabetic NHS chemical pathologist, and I’m emotionally overwhelmed as you can imagine. Or I believe that you can imagine so.

    Many thanks for your inspirations. Now my life style change begins, sighs
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  2. Arab Horse

    Arab Horse Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to read that but your new way of eating/lifestyle will bring lots of benefits. I was diagnosed 4 years ago quite out of the blue; hadn't seen my doctor in years and just went for my free NHS check. At that time I was still working (as a biomedical scientist) and when I was given my results to say I was gobsmacked is an understatement to say the least: HbA1c 10.4 and glucose 18.6! I had no symptoms and was told I must have been diabetic for years.

    I can eat nothing but green veg, protein and fat; any carby food even in small amounts send me sky high. You are fortunate in that you seem to have been diagnosed at a relatively early stage so diet changes and more exercise if needed should keep you OK.

    Good luck, hope all goes well for you.
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  3. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Wow very impressive most of us just to get to see "the nurse" who in most cases give out a load of incorrect claptrap...
    Let us know how it goes and welcome.
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  4. Prem51

    Prem51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Welcome to the forum @Michael3. It is a shock when you get that diagnosis and does take a bit of time to get your head around it all. It's good to hear that finding this forum has helped you. As you will have gathered many of us on here have found that adopting a lchf approach to eating has reduced our blood glucose levels. Your reading isn't high so you should be able to lower it fairly easily.
    As @bulkbiker says you are fortunate in being referred to a specialist so quickly. Most T2s don't get much advice, or referral to specialists, and certainly not within two weeks.
  5. Arab Horse

    Arab Horse Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Very bad T2 diagnosed 4 years ago. Until a few months ago I had never seen a Dr and only saw one then because the diabetic nurse had left and the new one was still in training!!! Not too much of a problem for me as I was a biochemist so probably know more than the new DN does!!!

    It is great that you are getting the full works, really helps.
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  6. Terrytiddy

    Terrytiddy Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @Michael3 welcome to the forum. Great that you found this site you will get plenty of help, advice and support from the members. I will tag @daisy1 for her welcome info pack. There is a bit to learn but you will get there. Good that you are getting to see the nurse so quick as well. Make sure you list all the questions you need answering, get as much info as you can re diagnosis. Keep us informed of your progress and good luck. :)
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  7. DeejayR

    DeejayR Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Welcome Michael3. I bet you're going to be just fine. This forum is the place to be for help in making your own decisions. We have to start from where we are, and these days it can be an email telling you you're sacked or in your case a GP's letter (does that mean your GP or any old GP?) saying you've got T2.
    I was lucky enough to be diagnosed in good time by my GP (since sacked) who wrote "Dr John Briffa ... just a suggestion" on a bit of paper and pushed it conspiratorially across the desk as if our conversation was being recorded. Dr Briffa's blog goes against NHS policy http://www.drbriffa.com/category/diabetesmetabolic-syndrome/ but after reading him I found this forum and today I feel well and confident about my chosen low-carb-high-fat eating routine. I'm not overweight, btw.
    Stick around.
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  8. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend

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    Hello Michael and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.


    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
    Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

    • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

    • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
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  9. rhubarb73

    rhubarb73 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Firstly welcome from another Yorkshire member. You are amongst friends and you will find this place a great help, I'm sure. Secondly, you received your diagnosis in the post? What the flip? This is life changing information, and the impact can be huge on mental and emotional well being. After a diagnosis like this you need advice straight away and help finding support. I'm pleased you made it here.
    I was diagnosed 7 weeks ago and so far it's going well for me...following a good plan will help you get there too.
    The keys for me have been (not advice but it's working for me):
    - low carb, everyday. I eat plenty, just good healthy low carb food
    - a few nuts are my go-to snack, if I get really hungry. Helps me not to miss crisps.
    - I test my BGL regularly before and after meals - it gives helpful information and is habit forming - keeps me focussed
    - I talk to my loved ones about it. I've discussed it with my children. Making it normal means making it manageable.
    - I come to this site every day. Support and be supported. Get insight, answers, sometimes just a giggle.
    It will get better.
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  10. Lampman

    Lampman Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the group. As you say, we have all had the experience of diagnosis and its quite a challenge to realise and accept it all. Happily you are in the right place to find out what its all about and what you can now do to make your future as good as it can be. Don't panic, take your time to read what others have done, and ask many questions. I made a huge difference to my health in general and to my condition by simple changes. It does take determination, but the incentive is the best. Good luck!
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