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Since being diagnosed as type 2 a few years ago I had my first Hypo yesterday, scary as, I have recently had Gliclazide 40 mg put on my list of meds, metformin 500 2 night and morning. I think I may have had 2 Gliclazide and within about a hour the world changed dramatically. I meet my mate for breakfast Saturday morning we go on our motorbikes, and he though I was still drunk from the night before.seeing as I don't drink that was odd. I forgot I was diabetic. I just eat my pills every day and get on with it. I did have the flu jab Friday. I got a lift home and settled in, felt awful, sounds were echoing, I was sweating, really dizzy. then my other mate called in ,I had just gone to bed, he got me up about an hour into my sleep and said you look awful, said is your meds in order? His mother is diabetic so he knows the signs. I had genuinely forgot I was diabetic! I don't have a test kit but he said have a cup of tea with a spoon of sugar in while I get my moms kit about 1/2 hour later he was back I tested 5.2 that was 1/2 hour after 2 cups of sweet tea! Then I had a bowl of honey coated cereal, he had brought with him. I know what to look for now! Today I feel like i have a light hangover. If it was a hypo it's not nice and i don't want another thank you very much!
 
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Since being diagnosed as type 2 a few years ago I had my first Hypo yesterday, scary as, I have recently had Gliclazide 40 mg put on my list of meds, metformin 500 2 night and morning. I think I may have had 2 Gliclazide and within about a hour the world changed dramatically. I meet my mate for breakfast Saturday morning we go on our motorbikes, and he though I was still drunk from the night before.seeing as I don't drink that was odd. I forgot I was diabetic. I just eat my pills every day and get on with it. I did have the flu jab Friday. I got a lift home and settled in, felt awful, sounds were echoing, I was sweating, really dizzy. then my other mate called in ,I had just gone to bed, he got me up about an hour into my sleep and said you look awful, said is your meds in order? His mother is diabetic so he knows the signs. I had genuinely forgot I was diabetic! I don't have a test kit but he said have a cup of tea with a spoon of sugar in while I get my moms kit about 1/2 hour later he was back I tested 5.2 that was 1/2 hour after 2 cups of sweet tea! Then I had a bowl of honey coated cereal, he had brought with him. I know what to look for now! Today I feel like i have a light hangover. If it was a hypo it's not nice and i don't want another thank you very much!

Hi,

Sorry you had such a bad experience..
The "teas" we're probably enough to pull you back "in line", along with something (longer acting.) like a piece of toast?

Funny enough. (I can apreciate we're on completely different meds.) I can normally keep going when back in range.. But if I use milk? It can also feel like a "hangover" long after recovery ...
 
Since being diagnosed as type 2 a few years ago I had my first Hypo yesterday, scary as, I have recently had Gliclazide 40 mg put on my list of meds, metformin 500 2 night and morning. I think I may have had 2 Gliclazide and within about a hour the world changed dramatically. I meet my mate for breakfast Saturday morning we go on our motorbikes, and he though I was still drunk from the night before.seeing as I don't drink that was odd. I forgot I was diabetic. I just eat my pills every day and get on with it. I did have the flu jab Friday. I got a lift home and settled in, felt awful, sounds were echoing, I was sweating, really dizzy. then my other mate called in ,I had just gone to bed, he got me up about an hour into my sleep and said you look awful, said is your meds in order? His mother is diabetic so he knows the signs. I had genuinely forgot I was diabetic! I don't have a test kit but he said have a cup of tea with a spoon of sugar in while I get my moms kit about 1/2 hour later he was back I tested 5.2 that was 1/2 hour after 2 cups of sweet tea! Then I had a bowl of honey coated cereal, he had brought with him. I know what to look for now! Today I feel like i have a light hangover. If it was a hypo it's not nice and i don't want another thank you very much!
Sorry to hear about your hypo, they are not nice!

I hope you never went out on the motorbike feeling the way you did? This is risky for yourself and most importantly - others...

It would be advisable for you to get a hold of a BG meter and strips so you can monitor your BG. This is an essential requirement before getting on the bike saddle or behind the wheel of a car.

I hope you're feeling better soon.
Grant
 
I have counted my Gliclazide and I did take 2 instead of 1, They are in a blister pack, so i'm going to get a sharpie pen and mark the pack for the future, I Dread to think what would have happened If I had done it on a normal light breakfast day! I usually have a small bowl of porridge, but Saturday is my treat day with the chaps,
A small English 1 bacon, 1 sausage, 1 egg, a few tomatoes and 2 toast, so I had already eaten that, before it set in! I think I would have been barking at the table legs if I hadn't ate such a pile.
 
Sorry to hear about your hypo, they are not nice!

I hope you never went out on the motorbike feeling the way you did? This is risky for yourself and most importantly - others...

It would be advisable for you to get a hold of a BG meter and strips so you can monitor your BG. This is an essential requirement before getting on the bike saddle or behind the wheel of a car.

I hope you're feeling better soon.
Grant
Nope I left the bike and got a lift home, i'll be picking it up later today.
 
I have counted my Gliclazide and I did take 2 instead of 1, They are in a blister pack, so i'm going to get a sharpie pen and mark the pack for the future, I Dread to think what would have happened If I had done it on a normal light breakfast day! I usually have a small bowl of porridge, but Saturday is my treat day with the chaps,
A small English 1 bacon, 1 sausage, 1 egg, a few tomatoes and 2 toast, so I had already eaten that, before it set in! I think I would have been barking at the table legs if I hadn't ate such a pile.
You may want to consider something like this. Would save you the hassle of scribbling all over the blister pack:

http://www.expresschemist.co.uk/saf...eminder.html?gclid=CPTk-ZuCvM8CFdU_Gwod1ZcEyA
 
I have counted my Gliclazide and I did take 2 instead of 1, They are in a blister pack, so i'm going to get a sharpie pen and mark the pack for the future, I Dread to think what would have happened If I had done it on a normal light breakfast day! I usually have a small bowl of porridge, but Saturday is my treat day with the chaps,
A small English 1 bacon, 1 sausage, 1 egg, a few tomatoes and 2 toast, so I had already eaten that, before it set in! I think I would have been barking at the table legs if I hadn't ate such a pile.

Between you & I? I wouldn't feel too guilty about the "treat" breakfast with the chaps..(the toast may have stopped you dropping faster?)

Depending on what you would gauge as a "small bowl" with your usual porridge? the oats & milk, By comparison to the "fry up" was probably lower in carbohydrate..
 
Sorry to hear you had a hypo... I remember my first one well too but luckily I was at home when it happened. I was on metformin at the time as well. As you say you now know what your symptoms are so you know what to look out for. I'm in the habit of having juice boxes everywhere... home, in my car, at work, etc. I carry sweets in my handbag too but they don't work as fast. Liquid works much faster with me... so the tea you had would've been great. I wish you the best. :)
 
Sorry to hear you had a hypo... I remember my first one well too but luckily I was at home when it happened. I was on metformin at the time as well. As you say you now know what your symptoms are so you know what to look out for. I'm in the habit of having juice boxes everywhere... home, in my car, at work, etc. I carry sweets in my handbag too but they don't work as fast. Liquid works much faster with me... so the tea you had would've been great. I wish you the best. :)


thanks for the reply, I have been to chemist and bought a pill dispenser and a supply of fruit polo sweets, 1 pack for the car one for the bike tool roll, 1 for the jacket.. Never bought sweets for 30 years, what a price. Hopefully I won't make the mistake with my meds again. I didn't realise how powerful Gliclazide are compared to Metformin.! I have an arrhythmic heart condition where they took me into the clinic and gave me drugs to bring on heart symptoms, while monitoring me, maybe they should do that with hypo's so people know what to expect, as I didn't have a clue what was happening to me. I had heard and read about them but until it happens you don't know, plus the fuzzy brain / confusion.stops you thinking right, my sister has been diagnosed 15 years and never had one!
 
I may be wrong about this, but I thought Gliclazide is one of the drugs where patients are supposed to be issued with a meter and test their blood glucose before driving - to prevent situations just like this one. If I am right, your surgery has been very remiss in prescribing you the Glic without adequate information and care.

I will tag @Oldvatr because I think he knows the DVLA driving requirements.
 
thanks for the reply, I have been to chemist and bought a pill dispenser and a supply of fruit polo sweets, 1 pack for the car one for the bike tool roll, 1 for the jacket.. Never bought sweets for 30 years, what a price. Hopefully I won't make the mistake with my meds again. I didn't realise how powerful Gliclazide are compared to Metformin.! I have an arrhythmic heart condition where they took me into the clinic and gave me drugs to bring on heart symptoms, while monitoring me, maybe they should do that with hypo's so people know what to expect, as I didn't have a clue what was happening to me. I had heard and read about them but until it happens you don't know, plus the fuzzy brain / confusion.stops you thinking right, my sister has been diagnosed 15 years and never had one!

Yeh well the very first symptom everyone gets with a hypo is loss of judgment. It's also the last thing to return even when you think you're ok. My endocrinologist explained that to me. He said you can't drive or do anything risky for at least half an hour after a hypo. And @Brunneria has a good point about driving while on gliclazide. It is a drug that stimulates your pancreas to produce more insulin so you are higher risk of having hypos. The doc surgery should've given you adequate warnings that's for sure. Your sister is fortunate to never have had a hypo. I've had quite a few and I was taught to keep my sugar level above my 'safe' number. That for me is 5. What that means if I drop below 5 on the meter my sugar drops quick and I get hypo symptoms on anything below 4.5 usually... sometimes I can start noticing at 4.8 or whatever. But my point is you should get to know your safe number too and keep above that number to avoid the hypos. It's easier said than done though I know. But at least set yourself some targets with that. My hypos can be mild and some can take me hours to recover from. I notice the lower I go on the meter, the longer the recovery time.
 
I may be wrong about this, but I thought Gliclazide is one of the drugs where patients are supposed to be issued with a meter and test their blood glucose before driving - to prevent situations just like this one. If I am right, your surgery has been very remiss in prescribing you the Glic without adequate information and care.

I will tag @Oldvatr because I think he knows the DVLA driving requirements.
Hi. Here is the DVLA info for you:
https://www.gov.uk/diabetes-driving
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/503546/INF188X2_150216.pdf

and from this site:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/driving-and-hypoglycaemia.html

In essence, you probably do not need to tell DVLA unless you have had a hypo where you needed others to assist you to recover. But you do need to tell your insurance company you are T2 on orals. It should not increase the premium.

The suggested level of 5 mmol.l in the guidelines is higher than the level you would normally expect to get hypo symptoms at (normally 3.8 or lower for most of us) and that is to allow for meter inaccuracy. As MEP also says, you could still be dropping bgl at the time of test. Be aware that there are some meters around that are calibrated for plasma bgl levels, and these will read about 1.6 mmol higher than the guiddlines state, so for instance I have had hypos when my SD Codefree reads up to 6.4 mmol/l

I am also struggling with 2 Glic tabs a day, and I am dropping to 1 a day, with the 2nd one on standby for carby days. I have a collection of over 100 spares now. I was on 4 a day!!!! I am on a ketogenic diet, and I think this lessens the brainfog of the hypos, I still get lows, but do not need assistance. I also know now how my lows bottom out at a safe level, so I do not hit the panic sweetie jar button to over correct a low. With experience you can learn to live with low bgl levels, and to get averages of 5 mmol/l means this is probably going to happen. But I always make sure I meet the guidelines for driving.

Thr last point I will make is that NICE guidelines to GP's say that anyone taking insulin should be supported for self monitoring, but T2's on orals or diet only should not get this support UNLESS there is evidence of hypoglycemic episodes occurring. Now you have had one, it is worth mentioning it to your GP and also that you are a driver The NICE guidelines do note that Glic increases the chances of hypo'e happening. My GP fully supports me, and last week my results were <<quote>> magnificent <<unquote>> But you will be expected to keep a daily log of readings, medication, food eaten hypo detections etc.

And they want to see improvements being made for their investment. Because T2s on orals cannot bolus for meals it is felt by GPs that T2D cannot benefit from self monitoring, but those of us here know different. So play the safety card aka DVLA. The punchline I play is that since the GP was wanting me on insulin last year, then I would be getting full testing support anyway, So I save him money by needing less support. It is the Practice budget thats paying for my treatment and care.

Goof Luck.

EDIT: was it my wishing Goof Luck that everybody liked? Good Luck is what I actually meant to say, but my bgl was running low last night.
 
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