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Has anyone seen this...

Interesting but only hyPothetical at this stage. The brain is being implicated more and more in gut diseases - there are brain neurotransmitters which are also found in the gut, psychological disorders can affect the gut (diarrhoea when anxious, IBS etc.) and the gut and brain are closely linked during foetal development. Since diabetes is such a potentially pharmacologically profitable area I suspect more research may follow if this theory looks promising.
 
kyrani99 said:
The idea that the brain plays an important role in glucose homeostasis is being revived
Have a look here: http://www.consultantlive.com/diabetes-type-2/brain-and-islet-key-partners-glucose-homeostasis
This could be a breakthrough in the near future.
Has anyone else seen it? What do you think?
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no i haven't... Thank you for pointing this out..

But unfortunately i have seen the effects first hand of advanced "vascular debenture" on an elderly type2 diabetic in the last couple of months of life. off the medication due to V low sugars & still prone to lows.. (Even in the last 24 hours hours of life.)
Though by this time we let him pretty much eat what he want..
 
Jaylee said:
no i haven't... Thank you for pointing this out..

But unfortunately i have seen the effects first hand of advanced "vascular debenture" on an elderly type2 diabetic in the last couple of months of life. off the medication due to V low sugars & still prone to lows.. (Even in the last 24 hours hours of life.)
Though by this time we let him pretty much eat what he want..
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I haven't seen the research linking dementia to D T2. Do you know of any info?
 
kyrani99 said:
I haven't seen the research linking dementia to D T2. Do you know of any info?
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Unfortunately no. My experience came from the long term home care of my father regarding his dementia & T2.. The last hours of his life threw up some interesting figures (though not to me at the time.) as I read the medical notes under his bed & googled on my mobile for answers.. (My parents had no internet.)
Neither I or my mum was told at the time, but the 4 times a day care plan that visited in conjunction with full time family care, were "monitoring" my fathers demise. (At least for the last 24hours.)
The big "DNR" on the front of & reiterated inside the notes were a give away to me.. Though I didn't have the heart to point this out to my mum.
I let my dad go & after giving him the dignity of time to himself. Then phoned the the doctors..
A troop of care nurses came in the house followed by a doc to officially pronounced him dead, then gave me the science about vascular dementia & the low sugars....

Irony if indeed that the internet prepared me for this where the NHS failed...
 
kyrani99 said:
I haven't seen the research linking dementia to D T2. Do you know of any info?
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If you do a google search for 'diabetes type 3 dementia' you will get some info.

I've been doing a bit of reading on the subject, since a family member has recently been tested and found to have some cognitive deterioration.

He has started supplementing large doses of omega 3, daily Sudoku, and I have forwarded the type 3/dementia links. I'm also going to be sending him an 'addictaball' game.
 
Brunneria said:
If you do a google search for 'diabetes type 3 dementia' you will get some info.

I've been doing a bit of reading on the subject, since a family member has recently been tested and found to have some cognitive deterioration.

He has started supplementing large doses of omega 3, daily Sudoku, and I have forwarded the type 3/dementia links. I'm also going to be sending him an 'addictaball' game.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I did google your suggestion and there are some very interesting articles. A lot of debate. I wonder if some of the dementa drugs are a cause too. A doctor had given my husband a test and he failed it on a few items some of which were outrageous. He asked him if he knew the time and the date. Of course he knew the month and year but not the day. But that is not unusual for someone who is retired because everyday is the same. And to top it all he had checked the time and date on his watch to see if my husband's answer was correct.

On the strength of that and another question of remember three item for 5 minutes, during which there was continued conversation, which of course he forgot, the doctor gave him some drugs to take supposedly to slow down any dementia. He only took what there was on the one prescription and stopped because he started having problems with memory.. Certainly he started having problems a few years down the road but he didn't have any diabetes. I think there is a lot they don't understand but I don't trust drugs either and neither did he.
 
Jaylee said:
Unfortunately no. My experience came from the long term home care of my father regarding his dementia & T2.. The last hours of his life threw up some interesting figures (though not to me at the time.) as I read the medical notes under his bed & googled on my mobile for answers.. (My parents had no internet.)
Neither I or my mum was told at the time, but the 4 times a day care plan that visited in conjunction with full time family care, were "monitoring" my fathers demise. (At least for the last 24hours.)
The big "DNR" on the front of & reiterated inside the notes were a give away to me.. Though I didn't have the heart to point this out to my mum.
I let my dad go & after giving him the dignity of time to himself. Then phoned the the doctors..
A troop of care nurses came in the house followed by a doc to officially pronounced him dead, then gave me the science about vascular dementia & the low sugars....

Irony if indeed that the internet prepared me for this where the NHS failed...
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Sorry about your father.
The internet is incredible for instant information. I remember a time even without computers. I don't rely on medical advice without questioning it because too many doctors are only trained to remember groups of symptoms and not to think things through. The health system is too geared to mass production and not to indiviidual care.We got to do our own research.
 
kyrani99 said:
Sorry about your father.
The internet is incredible for instant information. I remember a time even without computers. I don't rely on medical advice without questioning it because too many doctors are only trained to remember groups of symptoms and not to think things through. The health system is too geared to mass production and not to indiviidual care.We got to do our own research.
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The thing is these medical people see death all the time in their professional experience..
My dad had been sent home from hospital after an infection, during which his sugar levels were normal despite the unusually high carby food they were giving him during his stay.. I had checked his charts on a daily basis.. I asked questions & was fobbed off...
The "science" was all I needed to know.. The emotional support was down to my dad's family..

Yes, I do believe the certain parts of the brain act like the ECU on a car. However the components it controls must be in reasonable working order too?
 
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