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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 2170267" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>I would treat this information with a large pinch of salt, just as I do with the vegan glossies. I found it difficult to believe because although I recognise some of the reactions, there are too many and too piled up on each other to be credible. Most vegetarians seem to live reasonably healthy lives, but I do not know many vegans. I do remember watching a video of a WFPB annual convention in the USA, and sat there thinking to myself that people did seem to look quite ill. I have mainly met vegans who were macrobiotic (Ma PI diet) and they were certainly quite poorly and having way too many sickleaves from work, but the macrobiotic diet is known for that, and is not representative of modern vegans.</p><p></p><p>Scientific research recently published has shown a link between vegan diets today and low spermcounts and lowered libido. Another study ended up demonstrating that the incidence of diabetes in vegan circles is much the same as in the general populace. Vegan and vegetarian diets do seem to be beneficial for heart disease, but adverse for strokes. Overall life expectancy is not significantly affected either way. The all cause mortality for LCHF diet is better than most, including the low fat diets. These are from studies I found in PubMed archive.</p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28040519" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28040519</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 2170267, member: 196898"] I would treat this information with a large pinch of salt, just as I do with the vegan glossies. I found it difficult to believe because although I recognise some of the reactions, there are too many and too piled up on each other to be credible. Most vegetarians seem to live reasonably healthy lives, but I do not know many vegans. I do remember watching a video of a WFPB annual convention in the USA, and sat there thinking to myself that people did seem to look quite ill. I have mainly met vegans who were macrobiotic (Ma PI diet) and they were certainly quite poorly and having way too many sickleaves from work, but the macrobiotic diet is known for that, and is not representative of modern vegans. Scientific research recently published has shown a link between vegan diets today and low spermcounts and lowered libido. Another study ended up demonstrating that the incidence of diabetes in vegan circles is much the same as in the general populace. Vegan and vegetarian diets do seem to be beneficial for heart disease, but adverse for strokes. Overall life expectancy is not significantly affected either way. The all cause mortality for LCHF diet is better than most, including the low fat diets. These are from studies I found in PubMed archive. [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28040519[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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