It wasn't quite put to me like that, but the widely-spaced (dangerously so?) HbA1c test was the only alternative offered and, dressed up lovely, it gave the GP all he/she wants to know. Never mind what I was so desperate to know! My body was, and still is, melting away before my eyes and no suggestions from that quarter as to how I might slow it down or stop it! Although I know that my GPs' hands are tied to a certain extent, it still feels like "Wait and see! He'll perhaps disappear altogether before we have to spend any more on him! Anyway, its pay-day soon. Happy Days!"Yes, I was told testing is unnecessary for type 2's not on insulin by my nurse.
Perhaps it's another Postcode Lottery or NHS Trusts' prescribing policies are decided locally. I live in a deprived area and I can't imagine that many here, like me, have the resources to finance the meters or the supplies. If all type 2' s continue to ask for this equipment persistently and firmly, some may be lucky. - Another Lottery?Well, I was diagnosed with type 2 back last march, as judged by a random blood test. My hba1c was at 87. I had the usual info on diet needs and what meds were required..... also good and sound info. As it turned out, by June, the metformin didnt seem to agree with me, so was put on gliclazide, 1 x 40mg tablet daily. I had another hba1c test in july...hba1c was down to 72. I enquired at this time about self testing.... and the response was that 'oh no, you neednt keep doing this..... we rely more on the 3monthly blood test...!' Well I had another blood test in aug (for an unrelated issue to type 2), and asked for the hba1c to be included. Saw the diabetic team....a different nurse this time... and from this, I was given my own test meter and strips. She seemed to be more switched on about patients keeping their own tabs on bg levels. That latest test revealed my level had gone down to 53. It is from the monitoring daily each morning that I am getting wise as to what foods to avoid buying / eating. Out are high carb/hi sugar things. Always now checking for low sugar or no added sugar items. Having the daily test does keep my mind at ease, knowing that I am not heading in the wrong direction. I now get the strips on prescription. In time I suppose I will be able to only need test every 2 or 3 days..... then weekly. In my mind, if the nurse says self testing is not needed.....buy your own meter to keep abreast daily of how well you are doing.
I had another blood test last friday.... will keep this post updated when I find out my new 'score'....!
It wasn't quite put to me like that, but the widely-spaced (dangerously so?) HbA1c test was the only alternative offered and, dressed up lovely, it gave the GP all he/she wants to know. Never mind what I was so desperate to know! My body was, and still is, melting away before my eyes and no suggestions from that quarter as to how I might slow it down or stop it! Although I know that my GPs' hands are tied to a certain extent, it still feels like "Wait and see! He'll perhaps disappear altogether before we have to spend any more on him! Anyway, its pay-day soon. Happy Days!"
It might be useful to gather data/examples from those who have been given Meters or Supplies free recently even though they do not have Type 2. My other NHS funded advisors, not my GP, say that good BG monitoring is essential for good diabetes management of both Types; my GP agrees but will not / cannot / is persuaded not to, prescribe. Odd. I can see their growing financial problem, but that does not alter the fact that I have earned my NHS treatment, free of charge, over more than 50 years as a Tax and NI payer. I will continue to ask my GP to prescribe supplies at least, every time I go to see him, which is all too often.
I understand your frustration completely. I was given a meter and prescribed strips enough to test up to six times a day for three months. I have never had to ask since as a simple click online renews my prescription. In fact, due to testing up to 9 times a day at first (purely to establish patterns and make changes that worked), I popped into the diabetes unit at a large hospital and asking for more strips as I was running out, I was given not only some strips but also a second meter which the doctor was happy to do, thinking it a good idea to have one should the other fail! Now, my point isn't just that it totally depends where you are...I am in Central Scotland...but as significantly whether there are any other reasons why some people might get meters more easily than others. I was diagnosed following a renal transplant (the subsequent steroid treatment causing my diabetes!) and I was diagnosed in a ward while having a biopsy a couple of months later - perhaps the involvement of renal specialists and/or my circumstances helped (though I actually think it is perhaps simply a little more patient-friendly in Scotland than in the rest of the UK). So, any survey would need to bear such factors in mind to be useful. I would like to see if there is indeed a difference between Scotland and England in relation to the issuing of meters for Type 2 diabetics. I am certain it is about resources and/or management of them rather than any medical principle that drives policy. I can only suggest for those finding it difficult to try one of three approaches : 1] persist in requesting a meter and strips and and that you wish to control your condition through diet alone (saving the NHS on cost of meds and later treatment) and need a meter to record in a way which helps shape the right diet for you personally; 2] buy a meter and some strips and then request prescribed strips once you can show evidence of how much you benefit from using them; or c] accept reluctantly or because you are getting too stressed out making demands which fall on deaf ears - and just reduce the carbs right down (avoiding where possible foods which labels say are more than 10g carbohydrate per 100g of product) and see the difference it makes at your next HbA1c test...take confidence from that and consider buying a cheap meter and enough strips just to test once a week or so to check levels aren't varying too much. That last one may sound poor, but at least there is plenty of evidence that low carbing makes a dramatic difference (whether we are testing or not). Good luck.
Fellow Scot hereI was diagnosed T2 three years ago with an hba1c of 63. I asked for a meter and strips and was told it was not necessary to test. I bought a Nano to test myself and at my next review my hba1c was down to 38.
I asked for strips again arguing that it was through testing that I was able to lower my hba1c. I was told I couldn't have them as my levels were ok and they would only prescribe them if my levels were out of control. Cannae win!
I still test, would be mad not to. Not as often as in the early days as I know what foods I can eat now.
Many thanks, I tried to get the free tester linked to my 'Welcome' email but it advised me that I was not a suitable candidate as I was a first time user and was not updating from an older version. I am willing to buy my own as long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg ! but there are so may out there I wondered if there was any difference or what to look for.@Grannie75 ultimately the decision is yours however, by testing, you will be able to see what foods increase your blood glucose and will help you to decide what to eat. Many forum members who self fund use the code free tester but, as I don't, I've tagged @Bluetit1802 and @AndBreathe who may be able to send you a link.
Many thanks, I tried to get the free tester linked to my 'Welcome' email but it advised me that I was not a suitable candidate as I was a first time user and was not updating from an older version. I am willing to buy my own as long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg ! but there are so may out there I wondered if there was any difference or what to look for.
Advice will be gratefully received
Thank you so much, I have ordered this one, the price was much lower than I expected and have ordered extra accessories while I was there. You help is much appreciatedTry here for the Codefree meter
http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/
and here for the extra strips
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/
Pharmacies don't sell them. There are discount codes if you buy in bulk.
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
Told not to test and tools to do so are not available on prescriptionThis is not about whether the NHS should, or can afford to, provide test strips on a permanent or temporary basis to non-T1 diabetics. Having read #EveryCloud ’s post, and so many more like it over the years on this forum, I wonder whether we could gather together examples of Healthcare Professionals who have told people that it is either unnecessary or just plain wrong to test their blood sugars. It is a scandal that needs highlighting.
@powerley - I think you need to see your GP and have your prescription changed for more strips.
There was a simular receptionist at my GP Surgery some years back, who asked me only once why? I needed to see my GP, - I asked her was she a qualified Doctor? NO was the answer and so I got the appointment to see the GP.
I am only Type 2 (but on Insulin & Meformin) and I get a 100 test strips every month - I test up to 7 times a day.
my diabetic nurse recently wrote me out a prescription for 2 x 50 strips and when i colllected it the chemist said they could only issue 1.
Hopefully the Chemist gave you a "Owing Slip" for the other 50 strips?
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