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hbA1c back under control, and into normal range

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Location
Sheffield
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Just thought I update my status. Back in September I got an hbA1c reading of 45 and a couple of high fasting results (7.6 & 8.2). My GP diagnosed me as T2 diabetic as they don't appear to do 'pre-diabetes!

Anyway, I:
  • Went on a low carb (<80g per day) and low GI diet (with the occasional fish n chip supper and Sunday roast spuds!)
  • Bought a meter to take spot tests (and learnt that e.g. sugary and high carb foods spike my BG! duh)
  • Bought a smart watch (Nokia Steel HR) so that I can ensure I sleep well and do 10k steps per day
  • Reduced my weight from 84 to 81 kg as a result of the above
....and today a retest came in at an hba1c of 39. The news from the GP via the receptionist is 'reading's normal, no further action to be taken'.

The diabetic nurse was very much against lo carbing as 'you'd have no energy' and recommended brown rice, baked spuds, etc. It'll be interesting to see her reaction to my ignoring her advice and reducing hbA1c from 45 to 39 will be though. It seems to have worked, and to be honest my healthier lifestyle and diet is actually quite enjoyable and it's actually upped my energy levels! So I'm sticking with it.

So to anyone who's just been diagnosed, it's not the end of the world and you do have options (it was a shock when I got the raised hbA1c reading).

Cheers
 
Just thought I update my status. Back in September I got an hbA1c reading of 45 and a couple of high fasting results (7.6 & 8.2). My GP diagnosed me as T2 diabetic as they don't appear to do 'pre-diabetes!

Anyway, I:
  • Went on a low carb (<80g per day) and low GI diet (with the occasional fish n chip supper and Sunday roast spuds!)
  • Bought a meter to take spot tests (and learnt that e.g. sugary and high carb foods spike my BG! duh)
  • Bought a smart watch (Nokia Steel HR) so that I can ensure I sleep well and do 10k steps per day
  • Reduced my weight from 84 to 81 kg as a result of the above
....and today a retest came in at an hba1c of 39. The news from the GP via the receptionist is 'reading's normal, no further action to be taken'.

The diabetic nurse was very much against lo carbing as 'you'd have no energy' and recommended brown rice, baked spuds, etc. It'll be interesting to see her reaction to my ignoring her advice and reducing hbA1c from 45 to 39 will be though. It seems to have worked, and to be honest my healthier lifestyle and diet is actually quite enjoyable and it's actually upped my energy levels! So I'm sticking with it.

So to anyone who's just been diagnosed, it's not the end of the world and you do have options (it was a shock when I got the raised hbA1c reading).

Cheers

Hi there Paul - Well done on your HbA1c reduction.

Regarding your T2 diagnosis; assuming the two fasting scores you mention were venous blood tests (as opposed to finger prick) then it is reasonable to assume it was those results that led to your T2 diagnosis. Fasting readings over 7 on two separate occasions may be used to diagnose diabetes.

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/fasting-blood-sugar-levels.html
 
Is it possible to come down from a hbA1c of 67 ?

Hi @RockyStone,

Yes, it is perfectly possible. I was diagnosed with an HbA1c of 100 and now have normal blood sugar levels without medication. There are many of us with similar experiences, just have a look at the success stories thread. I am tagging @daisy1, who will provide you with some brilliant information for newbies.

@Paul_Sheffield -- Congrats on your brilliant results. (I apologize for highjacking your thread.)
 
@Paul_Sheffield

Hello Paul and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Hi there Paul - Well done on your HbA1c reduction.

Regarding your T2 diagnosis; assuming the two fasting scores you mention were venous blood tests (as opposed to finger prick) then it is reasonable to assume it was those results that led to your T2 diagnosis. Fasting readings over 7 on two separate occasions may be used to diagnose diabetes.

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/fasting-blood-sugar-levels.html

Yes, they were venous blood tests. I don't consider that I'm 'cured' but it looks like for me, controlling carbs and weight, and exercise can also control my BG. It's a good general guideline for a healthy lifestyle anyway, without having to live like a monk. I've certainly learnt how to prepare a whole new range of meals.
 
Is it possible to come down from a hbA1c of 67 ?
Most certainly I was 87 on diagnosis last one 28. Cut out carbs and watch the numbers tumble (in my case along with the weight).
Check out the intro at post number 8 by Daisy1 to get the inside track on how to do this without meds.
 
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