Atorvastatin and re Rosuvastatin are the 2 statins most likely to cause diabetes. They put my bloods up 2 points a day. That’s what everyone gets offered first and second choices but they don’t Taylor to suit Diabetics. 3 months on Atorvastatin and m circulation has been permanently affected. From having warm feet and hands even working outside all day in the winter! I have now been wearing gloves and sleeping in socks to keep warm!Hi.....after 8 months of significantly reducing carbs and sugar, my Hba1c has dropped (only) 2 points to 44. Not only that, my cholesterol levels have gone up - both the LDL and HDL levels are higher than they were in December. I have been eating more cheese, meat, eggs etc as well as lots of veg, but now I really don't know what I should be doing. I cannot live on chicken, fish and nuts alone! Any words of advice? I am hoping to see GP later this week. My BMI is only 19, so really don't want to be losing more weight. Thank-you
I have similar issues. My hba1c was 51, I was underweight, I have always been small and very active, plus ate a Mediterranean diet, I am approaching 70 so not as sport mad as I was. Cholesterol was very acceptable. Low carb diet prescribed plus told to gain weight, difficult on such a restrictive diet. Hba1c now 48, cholesterol much higher, so now on statins, lost more weight initially and had to increase fats to gain back the weight lost. Told to put up with it basically.Hi.....after 8 months of significantly reducing carbs and sugar, my Hba1c has dropped (only) 2 points to 44. Not only that, my cholesterol levels have gone up - both the LDL and HDL levels are higher than they were in December. I have been eating more cheese, meat, eggs etc as well as lots of veg, but now I really don't know what I should be doing. I cannot live on chicken, fish and nuts alone! Any words of advice? I am hoping to see GP later this week. My BMI is only 19, so really don't want to be losing more weight. Thank-you
Problem with that is an informed choice may still not be correct. I have no confidence in my GP. Neither does my wife.one blood pressure read and he wants to up the dose . He wanted me on Metformin two years back despite my Hb1c coming down. Last one was 42.been maintained 2 years I'm due tmw for go review. I know he will push me onto statins. I have resisted for a long time because I have personal knowledge of somebody whose life was wrecked.im already on blood pressure tabs,clopodigrel following a T.I.A two years ago and now my exercise regime is severely limited by an arthritic knee. I'm probably going to try a statin,see how it goes but getting fed up with daily grind of exercise,physio,aches and pains,poor sleep,feeling fatigued so another complication does not appeal. Common sense says yes to statins..but my head is saying no...No I have no side effects @Flanes. My brother in law, however, suffers with aching muscles from the Statins. All I know is they work for me. There is a lot of conflicting advice out there. Some people absolutely need them. They are a life saving medication. While some people have no elevated lipid levels, but are advised to go on them as a precaution. My Dr discussed with me the pros and cons of statins, the possible side effects, and the reasons for going on them. I said I would give them a try. I'm still on them with no issues.
I have read the book @MrsA2 recommends Dr Malcom Kendrick's The Clot Thickens. It's an easy read, very entertaining and very persuasive, but at the end of the day, it is his polemic. There are other books that argue, very convincingly, the reverse. Listen to what your Dr has to say, do your research, and that way you can make an informed choice.
Hi from the U.S. Just sharing my own experience. Now 80 y.o., when doc said, several months ago, "bad cholesterol" required meds, but I have probs with meds, we waited to re-test. Both the PCP and the Endocrinologist said my case due to genetics not diet (I have a disorder called "alpha-gal" which is a severe prob with mammalian-source meats/etc, and have been on that diet for over 4 years. So I haven't TOUCHED beef or pork in all that time. So, both docs felt it was NOT from diet. HINT: you may need to cut back on the mammalian meats.) Usually an egg eater at breakfast, I switched to regular oatmeal at least alternate mornings. I add a few pecan halves and salt. Cholesterol decreased considerably and A1C stayed stable (but having been on insulin many years now, I can say diabetes sometimes has life of its own, fluctuating when unexpected. Sometimes makes me wonder if there's something inconsistent in the insulin itself!) The only thing I could think was the answer was the oatmeal. It IS a conundrum to look at lists and see that the low-cholesterol foods are the high carbs ones and vice versa.! Maybe you can give that a try. I don't consistently see this UK thread, but do hope to see this might have helped.Hi.....after 8 months of significantly reducing carbs and sugar, my Hba1c has dropped (only) 2 points to 44. Not only that, my cholesterol levels have gone up - both the LDL and HDL levels are higher than they were in December. I have been eating more cheese, meat, eggs etc as well as lots of veg, but now I really don't know what I should be doing. I cannot live on chicken, fish and nuts alone! Any words of advice? I am hoping to see GP later this week. My BMI is only 19, so really don't want to be losing more weight. Thank-you
As a diabetic myself, I was told to cut down on the carbs by my dietition as carbs also turn into sugar and can also increase your cholesterol levels. Have you tried to reduce your carbs?Hi.....after 8 months of significantly reducing carbs and sugar, my Hba1c has dropped (only) 2 points to 44. Not only that, my cholesterol levels have gone up - both the LDL and HDL levels are higher than they were in December. I have been eating more cheese, meat, eggs etc as well as lots of veg, but now I really don't know what I should be doing. I cannot live on chicken, fish and nuts alone! Any words of advice? I am hoping to see GP later this week. My BMI is only 19, so really don't want to be losing more weight. Thank-you
I was told by my dietition that carbs also produce sugar and can increase your cholesterol levels. Have you tried cutting those down?Hi.....after 8 months of significantly reducing carbs and sugar, my Hba1c has dropped (only) 2 points to 44. Not only that, my cholesterol levels have gone up - both the LDL and HDL levels are higher than they were in December. I have been eating more cheese, meat, eggs etc as well as lots of veg, but now I really don't know what I should be doing. I cannot live on chicken, fish and nuts alone! Any words of advice? I am hoping to see GP later this week. My BMI is only 19, so really don't want to be losing more weight. Thank-you
If your talking to your GP it might be wortth typing "which statins can cause diabetes" into Google and discussing the articles with your GP. I changed to Prevestatin years ago (at least 10 years ago) and am still only prediabetic and not getting any worse.I did the very low carb diet, my blood sugars barely budged. My BMI is the same as yours 19. I've brought my HbA1c down to 5.8 % doing exercise, but I have exercised a lot to achieve that number. I'm on a statin for my LDL. My Triglycerides have always been very low and HDL levels are very good. Like you I do not want to lose weight.
Thank you for your reply @DavidE54. I'm on Rosuvastatin. The link between statins and increased risk is well documented. People respond to statins differently. I have had no issues at all. My LDL Cholesterol is now normal. My Triglycerides have always been very low.If your talking to your GP it might be wortth typing "which statins can cause diabetes" into Google and discussing the articles with your GP. I changed to Prevestatin years ago (at least 10 years ago) and am still only prediabetic and not getting any worse.
Hi, There are still medics and nutritionists who say the total cholesterol values are important and that LDL is 'bad'. It is increasingly apparent that this is not the case. (LDL plays a very important role in the immune response and having too little has been shown to lower life-expectancy). The important parameter are the ratios of HDL, LDL, Total Cholesterol and triglycerides.Hi.....after 8 months of significantly reducing carbs and sugar, my Hba1c has dropped (only) 2 points to 44. Not only that, my cholesterol levels have gone up - both the LDL and HDL levels are higher than they were in December. I have been eating more cheese, meat, eggs etc as well as lots of veg, but now I really don't know what I should be doing. I cannot live on chicken, fish and nuts alone! Any words of advice? I am hoping to see GP later this week. My BMI is only 19, so really don't want to be losing more weight. Thank-you
It is the same here in Canada @agwagwHi, There are still medics and nutritionists who say the total cholesterol values are important and that LDL is 'bad'. It is increasingly apparent that this is not the case. (LDL plays a very important role in the immune response and having too little has been shown to lower life-expectancy). The important parameter are the ratios of HDL, LDL, Total Cholesterol and triglycerides.
A very useful summary of this is provided in the book: 'A Statin-free Life' by Dr Aseem Malhotra (A UK cardiologist). It is all fully referenced.
As a professional biochemist I find it depressing that it is taking so long for the myths of 'bad' and 'good' cholesterol to leave the parlance of GPs and (especially) NHS dieticians.
let's not de-rail - PM follows@KennyA
Was listening today to new podcast on Kick Sugar Coach by Dr Stephen Hussey. Think you'll find it interesting. Turns lots of conventional thoughts out. Have you heard of him before?
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