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Hba1c test result

Some times, not often, labs do make errors and samples do get mixed up. This is now very uncommon with bar codes labels put on all samples and read by the machines, but can still happen.
 
Now have a copy of the letter from the Dr to the Lab, can't wait to read when it arrives.Will let you know in full what it reads.
Dr then suggests maybe a yearly HBA1C to keep an Eye on you, Wow unbelievable here we go again
 
All very enlightening. My HBA1C was a bit different at 95 - but I never had a second.
I eat a low carb and my second test was 44 (I think) and that was 8 weeks later. Am I not a diabetic.
I have already been dismissed from my Drs surgery to only come back in 6 months - and now I am finding regular BGs less than 5.5 all of the time with a post meal peek at 6.2 even with a small amount of added carbs.

Intend to take the plunge in the next three months if figures stay the same and add in some more carbs see where I go.
 
Why did you not go back for the second test for a full W.HO. Diagnosis of diabetes, thought that your Dr would insist
that test for all the help and advice from the team. So you to are not diabetic with a HBA1C of 95. So what a you
classed as, because I really don't understand
 
I never got asked to go back - I went back for my three month check, they couldn't get any blood - they used my annual private medical check report to plug into their systems that my HBA1C was now 44.

However, I suspect given some of the responses to food stress and exercise that I have had, that I am diabetic. Perhaps they thought 95 was no hope of a mis-diagnosis.
 
So unless we make the numbers from the W.H.O of 47/48 two times, we don't have diabetes. Hmmm that seems a little crazy
because returning that second number may take some time,mean time we are in no mans land till we make the grade.So untold
damage to my body continues because I am with out systoms. So we join the thousands undiagnosed but with a very strong
maybe.
 
Leamill said:
Why did you not go back for the second test for a full W.HO. Diagnosis of diabetes, thought that your Dr would insist
that test for all the help and advice from the team. So you to are not diabetic with a HBA1C of 95. So what a you
classed as, because I really don't understand
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They only normally do 2 consecutive HbA1c tests if the level is fairly low, borderline or maybe low 50s. If it is high, like @Fleegle 's 95, they wait for the first review at 3 months. Mine was 53 and I had 2 tests 2 weeks apart.
 
So type 2 is a progressive disease, even with diet and exercise its inevitable that HBA1C will rise leading to Meds.So just how fast can the numbers go up to make the diagnosis if below the W.H.O guide lines
 
No @Leamill, have a good look around the forum, you can sometimes halt and reverse the progression of type 2 with diet and exercise. Meds can help as well.
 
Leamill said:
So type 2 is a progressive disease, even with diet and exercise its inevitable that HBA1C will rise leading to Meds
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That is I believe a false statement. Obviously in my case after 21 months I can't say for sure.. but if my HbA1c can go from 87 to 29 (most recent) then I would hardly describe that as progressive.
 
I only need to slow down the "progress" of Type2 so that it does not affect my life. Given that with "standard" progress it takes 10 years before Type2 has much effect on someone's life, I just need to slow it down by 80%. I expect I will do a lot better then this.....
 
Leamill said:
So spoke with the Dr this evening.She now says we never said you have Diabetes,you have heightened HBA1C test result of 50.
Really don't understand where this is going. So its OK to dip into the 50's for a while,then dip back out again and not be diabetic.
So one year on after four tests and diabetic appointments, I am not diabetic,still waiting for the Lab to respond to the request of
explanation.
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If we limit ourselves to the current clinical definition of diabetes...which is glucose centric, then yes...you may not be diabetic any more...

But if we look just a bit deeper...it may tell a different story...
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/t2d-progression.1500/
 
But if you have read my postings, you will see I am officially outside of W.H.O guide lines for diabetes. Yet I can return a number of 50 HBA1C for one time only.Maybe my indoor rowing training of seven hours a week is holding off the real number
because of the high level of Cv work out.If that's what is happening that's not close control of HBA1C, my exercise is giving
False indications of what is really going on.And as I get older I cannot sustain that level of training which is not there to hold off
HBA1C tests, below the threshold but for staying active.If the Lab got this so badly wrong,they have some pretty serious questions to answer.
 
Leamill said:
But if you have read my postings, you will see I am officially outside of W.H.O guide lines for diabetes. Yet I can return a number of 50 HBA1C for one time only.Maybe my indoor rowing training of seven hours a week is holding off the real number
because of the high level of Cv work out.If that's what is happening that's not close control of HBA1C, my exercise is giving
False indications of what is really going on.And as I get older I cannot sustain that level of training which is not there to hold off
HBA1C tests, below the threshold but for staying active.If the Lab got this so badly wrong,they have some pretty serious questions to answer.
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Your statement about "progressive" is negated by your own results.. So I'm not sure why you posted it.. Many people on this site have reversed progression using diet alone so to make a blanket statement as you did seems a bit odd.
If you were quoting a Diabetes Nurse or some other HCP then quotation marks would have made your post more clear. Many of us do not believe (know?) that your statement is correct.
 
Leamill said:
Yet I can return a number of 50 HBA1C for one time only
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That it has happened one time is indicative of possible beta cells impairment. Unless the instruments or the testing process was flawed. But that there was an impairment does not mean it cannot recover to some degree. Just that full recovery continues to be the holy grail.

You can also perform oral glucose tolerance test to verify your glucose response. Because while I have maintained non-diabetic HbA1c for close to 2 years, I have not restored glucose response to normal level....
 
I have lived as a type 2 for a year, I attended clinics for eye tests, podiatrist appointments, four diabetic nurse appointments.
I listen to the advice given, and now dismissed from all of this.My motivation for my one hour a day indoor rowing, was never
based on advice from anyone in my health care professionals, they were talking about 20 mins a day around the park, not a 800
cal burn on a rowing machine seven days a week. If a type 2 becomes insulin resistance, does not matter how much you work
out or carb watch,it's Meds I was told.They tell us all(public) to get tested, I did And they screwed me over for a year.And even
now they say "let's have a yearly check to keep an eye on you"really I still think there not sure.Remmember the diagnosis of diabetes comes from a guy in a white coat in a Lab and his machines, the Dr just passes the information to you.Seriouly not
one person bothered to call/ write to Lab and ask could this be a mistake. As I stated I will share with you all the contents of
the letter from the Lab.
 
Leamill said:
. If a type 2 becomes insulin resistance, does not matter how much you work out or carb watch,it's Meds I was told.
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:D as many of us found out...they aren't always right.
Instead of a daily 1hr rowing which I am sure is a great way to burn off calories...I chose to cut the carbs and just eat more fats...more than I ever did in my previous 40+ years...different strokes for different folks.

I am sure if I ever need to turn to medication, there will be no lack of options.
 
Leamill said:
I have lived as a type 2 for a year, I attended clinics for eye tests, podiatrist appointments, four diabetic nurse appointments.
I listen to the advice given, and now dismissed from all of this.My motivation for my one hour a day indoor rowing, was never
based on advice from anyone in my health care professionals, they were talking about 20 mins a day around the park, not a 800
cal burn on a rowing machine seven days a week. If a type 2 becomes insulin resistance, does not matter how much you work
out or carb watch,it's Meds I was told.They tell us all(public) to get tested, I did And they screwed me over for a year.And even
now they say "let's have a yearly check to keep an eye on you"really I still think there not sure.Remmember the diagnosis of diabetes comes from a guy in a white coat in a Lab and his machines, the Dr just passes the information to you.Seriouly not
one person bothered to call/ write to Lab and ask could this be a mistake. As I stated I will share with you all the contents of
the letter from the Lab.
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Reading all of your posts there seems to be a few things that are conflicting and upsetting you.
Firstly though - you should be pleased with you HBA1C current results. Even if the original lab made a mistake you have shown that you fall outside the diabetic range - and the annual tests will keep you that way. I think, knowing where I am now, everyone should have an annual check it can only help.

Secondly - You have had a number of tests in the year for free which many people would of liked to have had and you now know you have healthy eyes and feet - that is great news.

Thirdly - your exercise regime seems like something the Dr would of ordered for everyone - and if that is keeping your progression at bay then that to is great news isn't it?

What does satisfaction for you look like? Probably worth thinking about that - is it that the Lab made a mistake? Would you be happier if they found you were 50? Would you believe that and not consider that somehow it got contaminated?

I am not sure what you are searching for and what help anyone can give - sounds to me like you have had a thorough MOT.
 
ringi said:
I only need to slow down the "progress" of Type2 so that it does not affect my life. Given that with "standard" progress it takes 10 years before Type2 has much effect on someone's life, I just need to slow it down by 80%. I expect I will do a lot better then this.....
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@ringi - what does the ten year thing mean? Does that mean that a person out of control last about 10 years before they get complications? And that you intend to be in control so that the ten year window is pushed sufficiently back?

Someone else posted on another thread that you cannot reverse DB after ten years - and again I wondered what that meant?
 
Fleegle said:
Someone else posted on another thread that you cannot reverse DB after ten years - and again I wondered what that meant?
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This observation probably came out of Dr Roy Taylor's research for restoring 1st phase insulin response. Those who had T2D for more than 10 years did not respond as well to his 8 week diet.
 
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