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tsimane have heathiest hearts ;
Healthiest hearts in the world' found
By James GallagherHealth and science reporter, BBC News website
ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39292389

  • 17% of their diet is game including wild pig, tapir and capybara (the world's largest rodent)
  • 7% is freshwater fish including piranha and catfish
  • Most of the rest comes from family farms growing rice, maize, manioc root (like sweet potato) and plantains (similar to banana)
  • It is topped up with foraged fruit and nuts
It means:

  • 72% of calories come from carbohydrates compared with 52% in the US
  • 14% from fat compared with 34% in the US, Tsimane also consume much less saturated fat
  • Both Americans and Tsimane have 14% of calories from protein, but Tsimane have more lean meat
 
News story from 18th March 2017, that has been previously discussed on the forum.

Please try to keep up, or at the very least utilise the very handy search facility.

This story also shows how important a large carbohydrate intake can be, and is just as relevant to a person living a normal life in the 21st century western world.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/44694122
 
I think REGARDLESS of the diet, if I spent my days foraging, hunting, walking through the forests, carrying heavy loads of things I just dug up etc. etc, I would have a pretty darn healthy heart too. Not to mention the lack of stress, minimal pollution, not sitting at a desk all day etc.

My grandparents were farmers, ate what we would all consider a "horrible" high carb + high fat diet (lots of bread, potatoes, carrots etc because that is all they could grow and store for the cold months) combined with lots of red meat (pork, beef) and chicken, but worked their asses off day in and day out...never sat still for a minute. All lived to a ripe old age with no health issues. Probably never ate a nut in their lives as they just were not around in rural Alberta in the "old days".

I could immediately draw a direct correlation between the two and say diet is irrelevant, and that we should all be doing forced slave labour to stay healthy...

Trying to say their heart health comes directly from their diet, without taking into consideration the numerous other variables, is scientifically not valid.
 
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Not sure I would like such a monotonous restrictive diet…..;)
 
My understanding is that there have been a number of studies* showing that longevity and heart health can be found in populations that have either of these things:

High unprocessed carbs and low fat intake
or
low carb and higher protein/fat intake

While modern western society sits in the middle with fat carbs and protein in more equal proportions plus the perils of highly processed carbs in the mix and our hearts show that this combo is NOT ideal!

* sorry not to produce links to the studies. There are actually so many of them nowadays that I wouldn't know how to pick one. Articles in the papers about the Pioppi, ancient studies of ancestral diets, Supersize Me, and so on. The info is everywhere, if we look...
 
britishpub said:
News story from 18th March 2017, that has been previously discussed on the forum.

Please try to keep up, or at the very least utilise the very handy search facility.
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Why reply so rudely?
 
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britishpub said:
News story from 18th March 2017, that has been previously discussed on the forum.

Please try to keep up, or at the very least utilise the very handy search facility.

This story also shows how important a large carbohydrate intake can be, and is just as relevant to a person living a normal life in the 21st century western world.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/44694122
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that's a bit brusque, I've not been on for a bit, so updates on stuff is quite helpful.
 
Tannith said:
Healthiest hearts in the world' found
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And an average life expectancy of 53 years ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17421012).
Two thirds of them suffer intestinal worms (http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/e...eries-of-the-tsimane-group-in-south-american/)
Average height of male is 1.66m, females is 1.54m.

Their bodies might be able to tolerate 70% + of their calories being carbs, but none of those carbs are of the highly processed carbs in the western diet.

Interesting, but are they trying to say carbs are good for heart health? So long as your life expectancy is 53 years, you've probably got worms, are prone to infections, are of a particular height and have to work hard to get your food. Can it be more different to us westerners.
 
DavidGrahamJones said:
And an average life expectancy of 53 years ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17421012).
Two thirds of them suffer intestinal worms (http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/e...eries-of-the-tsimane-group-in-south-american/)
Average height of male is 1.66m, females is 1.54m.

Their bodies might be able to tolerate 70% + of their calories being carbs, but none of those carbs are of the highly processed carbs in the western diet.

Interesting, but are they trying to say carbs are good for heart health? So long as your life expectancy is 53 years, you've probably got worms, are prone to infections, are of a particular height and have to work hard to get your food. Can it be more different to us westerners.
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I was going to ask what their life expectancy was as it seemed to have been ignored in the study (or at least not stated openly).
So once you have got past the things that kill the majority you have a healthy heart..
 
The infant mortality rate amongst these hunter gatherer people is high and the women die on average younger than their male counterparts. The studies are interesting but it has to be noted that these are an isolated peoples with a comparatively small gene pool.
 
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