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pussinboots73

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Type of diabetes
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Hi guys. As you've probably guessed I am new here and just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Dominique and I live in Wales, I have three children and two step children all nearly grown up. I have been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and was initially told to control it through my diet, which I have been trying to do. I wasn't testing my blood glucose levels regularly as my gp said I didn't have to. Tested it today, fasting, and it was 17.5. Any advice on what I should do?
 
Another GP who should be read the riot act. If you do not test, how do you know? 17.5 is high and needs to be brought down a fair bit.

Advice? What are you eating (daily diet) would be the first question and we'll work from there.
 
Hello pussinboots73. Welcome to the Forum. Everybody here is friendly, knowledgeable and can give sound advice - so ask away.
 
I control my BG and lowered my weight using a low carb diet .takes a bit of getting used to but it works,
 
Hi and welcome. Yes, we all need to have a meter and use it. The NHS can't afford the strips so uses the 'don't need to' excuse. It's very important to adopt a lower-carb diet if you wish to reduce both weight and blood sugar. Have enough proteins, fats, veg and fruit to provide nutrients and fibre and to keep you feeling full.
 
Hi pussinboots. I've also now recently been diagnosed type 2 from pre diabetic. I put on one stone which tipped me over it seems. Anyway no medication or meter offered just to go away and lose the weight. I've found so much support here and have now adopted a low carb diet - though a few trips now and again !!! But it's working . Also I decided that as is Often the case these days I would invest in my own health and bought a code free glucose monitor and code free strips from Amazon. I have a pen which takes lancets that cost abut £4 a£5 for 100 also from Amazon. Not everyone will agree that this should have been necessary, but I think I'm worth not such a huge investment even if the NHS can't afford me !!!!!! As you browse round the forums you will find great advice and success stories to take encouragement from., also advice on other sites to visit for low carb guidance etc. There is a low carb recipe book amongst others which you can find on a link here. I'm now referring to that one quite a bit.
Good luck X
 
Sounds good countrykins I totally agree with you. They won't fund people who are diet only and I only took my blood sugar levels as I found my meter buried in the drawer. I am experiencing symptoms too blurred vision dry mouth etc
 
Hi and welcome. I'm going to tag @daisy1 who will give you the welcome pack full of good info. What we do know is that what is perceived as a "healthy" diet for the general population, often isn't good at all for us diabetics! Apart from the more obvious sugars, carbohydrates are usually bad, as they turn to glucose in the blood and raise levels. It would be advisable to cut down your pasta, rice, potatoes and bread by at least half, it would be even better if you could cut it out but that might be too much to cope with. Fruit is another thing to be wary of as it has a lot of sugar, albeit natural, it still pushes levels up. Better choices are berries, worst are usually bananas. Self testing is the best thing you can do for yourself as it will help you get a handle on which foods affect you the worst.

Hope this helps:)
 
Hi pussinboots73. The blurred vision and dry mouth is caused by the sugar circulating in your blood. As you start to get your blood sugars under control you will find these 'symptoms' decrease. I test my blood sugars every morning before Breakfast ( before taking Insulin and Diabetic Tablets) and test before Lunch and before Dinner. You will soon get to grips with it all.
 
@pussinboots73

Hello Dominique and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information, mentioned above, which we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially the advice on diet. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi @pussinboots73

Thanks for replying

@ladybird64 got it right. Fruits and pasta I am betting are not OK for you ... at all ...

In brief your diet is not the best and if we dug a little deeper, I'd bet we find more stuff you should not be eating. What you believe to be a good diet is fine by those who are not diabetic, but with you it isn't. Again, cut them down, overload in above ground leafy green veg is recommended, protein (eggs etc) fine but do it slowly and I'd wager you'll get those figures down really quickly. Lots of water, no sugary drinks mind you .... but the devil was in the detail you provided and reckon we've found out what that devil is .... food unsuitable for you and many many others.

You'll get your head around it, don't panic and stay with us ....
 
Hi @pussinboots73

Thanks for replying

@ladybird64 got it right. Fruits and pasta I am betting are not OK for you ... at all ...

In brief your diet is not the best and if we dug a little deeper, I'd bet we find more stuff you should not be eating. What you believe to be a good diet is fine by those who are not diabetic, but with you it isn't. Again, cut them down, overload in above ground leafy green veg is recommended, protein (eggs etc) fine but do it slowly and I'd wager you'll get those figures down really quickly. Lots of water, no sugary drinks mind you .... but the devil was in the detail you provided and reckon we've found out what that devil is .... food unsuitable for you and many many others.

You'll get your head around it, don't panic and stay with us ....
@ladybird64

Hi, yeah my diet isn't very good. Its not so much of the quantity I eat it's when I eat and what. I have always struggled with my weight for years, at one point I lost a whopping eight stone and that was by eating regularly and a balanced diet. I'm really starting to worry as I have other major health issues besides diabetes, some are which is weight related others not and I'm so afraid I'm gonna keel over one day. I really don't know what to eat
 
Hi @pussinboots73

Thanks for replying

@ladybird64 got it right. Fruits and pasta I am betting are not OK for you ... at all ...

In brief your diet is not the best and if we dug a little deeper, I'd bet we find more stuff you should not be eating. What you believe to be a good diet is fine by those who are not diabetic, but with you it isn't. Again, cut them down, overload in above ground leafy green veg is recommended, protein (eggs etc) fine but do it slowly and I'd wager you'll get those figures down really quickly. Lots of water, no sugary drinks mind you .... but the devil was in the detail you provided and reckon we've found out what that devil is .... food unsuitable for you and many many others.

You'll get your head around it, don't panic and stay with us ....

Another GP who should be read the riot act. If you do not test, how do you know? 17.5 is high and needs to be brought down a fair bit.

Advice? What are you eating (daily diet) would be the first question and we'll work from there.
What are all these numbers?
 
Hi pussinboots73. If you go to the top of this page and tap on the word FORUMS, then scroll down to Food and Nutrition - there you will see: Low Carb Diets, - Low Calorie Diets, - Weight Loss and Dieting just tap on these headings and I hope that these may be of some help for you? Liam1955
 
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