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mountainmanUK

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Hi,
I'm Dave, 58 years young, from Lancashire. Just signed up here after being diagnosed with Type 2 3 weeks ago. Was pre-diabetic for a few years before. Started on Gliclazide 80mg on diagnosis. I'm looking forward to sharing experiences etc. with everyone, as I'm an avid internet Forum user! I work part-time (20hrs) for Royal Mail, but been off sick since diagnosis due to blurred vision and occasional "wobbly wonks"!
Cheers! :)
 
Hi and welcome to the forums Dave. I'm from Lancashire originally but defected to Yorkshire 20 years ago LOL.

How are you finding the adjustment so far?
 
Hi Loobies! You've been on "missionary work" in White Rose country for a long time! lol

Not finding things too worrying at the moment, but when first diagnosed I had dangerously high Ketones, which the Doc wanted to hospitalise me for. I finally persuaded her not to, and the ketones dropped off over 2 weeks, then I started on the Gliclazide. I actually started using a CareSens N blood test machine today, and had a reading of 7.1 this morning (after my first brew!), but up to 12.1 tonight, a couple of hours after tea. I've been eating really healthily for years anyway, so diet isn't really a problem. At the moment I am confident that the Glic will start to sort things out, and I can keep this beastie under MY control!
 
Hi and welcome. Can you let us know whether you are normal or a bit overweight? Have you made any changes to your diet to control blood sugar and excess weight if any?
 
Hi! I was 15 st 12lbs only 4 months ago (way too heavy), but I am now back down to 12st 13lbs. Most of this rapid loss was put down to my diabetes (and ketones) before my official diagnosis. I am now just about perfect for my height (6ft) and also back at the weight I had maintained for over 20 years. I have eaten a very healthy diet for many years, and my initial weight gain was a result of spending a year on Mirtazipine, as I have suffered from moderate/severe depression since 2006. Since coming off the Mirtazipine and onto Citalopram, my depression has been under firm control. Since my T2 diagnosis, I have swapped out a few extra things from my diet (brown rice, wholewheat flour, etc) and started to "balance" my meals a bit more than before. (more brealfast, less tea, regular small healthy snacks). I feel fine, dietwise, and rarely feel hungry.
 
Hi! I was 15 st 12lbs only 4 months ago (way too heavy), but I am now back down to 12st 13lbs. Most of this rapid loss was put down to my diabetes (and ketones) before my official diagnosis. I am now just about perfect for my height (6ft) and also back at the weight I had maintained for over 20 years. I have eaten a very healthy diet for many years, and my initial weight gain was a result of spending a year on Mirtazipine, as I have suffered from moderate/severe depression since 2006. Since coming off the Mirtazipine and onto Citalopram, my depression has been under firm control. Since my T2 diagnosis, I have swapped out a few extra things from my diet (brown rice, wholewheat flour, etc) and started to "balance" my meals a bit more than before. (more brealfast, less tea, regular small healthy snacks). I feel fine, dietwise, and rarely feel hungry.
Do you test your blood glucose at all? It's not recommended by all GP's sadly (mine included), but I've found it useful for establishing which foods make my BG go too high. I try a food in a moderate quantity and then, if it makes my BG high, I'll reduce the quantity and test again next time. Some things, I can't have even in small quantity - like white bread for example, or white rice. I'm ok with 100g new potatoes, 1 slice of Burgen linseed bread....still working my way through the other stuff LOL
 
Hello there and Welcome to the forum....I also find after eating bread last eve that it sends my sugars high.... so best stay off that for a while
 
Hi again!
I have only got myself a BG monitor yesterday (Monday), so only done 3 tests so far. First test was 7.1 in the morning, after my first cup of tea (no sugar!). Tested again in the evening, about 2 hours after having my main meal (mushroom stroganoff with brown rice and skimmed milk instead of cream!). This test was 12.1. I have just done my first test this morning (after brew again) and read 9.1. It's all still very new to me, but I have been very good at "managing" my depression, so the Doc thinks I will soon get the hang of managing my diabetes too. It's just getting used to knowing what I can eat at what time, and in what quantity, to allow me to carry out my normal lifestyle (work, exercise, etc). I think the BG monito (a CareSens N) will help me keep a tigher control on how my BG changes over a day/week/month.
I am delighted to see so much valuable information on this site, and I am slowly working my way through reading it all!
 
Well done on getting a meter!

For the morning tests you should do them as soon as you get up and before eating or drinking anything.

For the meal tests you should test immediately before eating as well as 2 hours after starting to eat. This way you learn how much each meal spikes your BG levels. I would be wary of the brown rice (starchy carbs), this is probably why you went up to 12.1. Ideally you should look for +2 values no more than 8.5 initially, then even lower as you use your meter to learn how your BGs behave. Cream is better than skimmed milk - low carb (low-fat products often have added sugar).

But keep it up, you've taken the first steps to managing your diabetes.
 
Hi! I was 15 st 12lbs only 4 months ago (way too heavy), but I am now back down to 12st 13lbs. Most of this rapid loss was put down to my diabetes (and ketones) before my official diagnosis. I am now just about perfect for my height (6ft) and also back at the weight I had maintained for over 20 years. I have eaten a very healthy diet for many years, and my initial weight gain was a result of spending a year on Mirtazipine, as I have suffered from moderate/severe depression since 2006. Since coming off the Mirtazipine and onto Citalopram, my depression has been under firm control. Since my T2 diagnosis, I have swapped out a few extra things from my diet (brown rice, wholewheat flour, etc) and started to "balance" my meals a bit more than before. (more brealfast, less tea, regular small healthy snacks). I feel fine, dietwise, and rarely feel hungry.
Hello! Welcome to this great, informative and supportive forum!! I'm only two months diagnosed- had no idea, routine bloods for hormonal query- strangely enough I had been on mirtazapine for a few years, with in a couple of weeks of starting lchf and being in control of my type2 I have come off them totally and feel so different!!
 
Hello and welcome from me - also a Lancastrian and still here!

These are the NICE guidelines for type 2's, used by the NHS.
Fasting and before meals between 4 and 7
2 hours after eating under 8.5

Once you are hitting those targets you can aim for even lower. (Under 6 and under 7.8)

As Sanguine said above, it is important to do the morning test as soon as you get up, before drinks or food, and before pottering about, showers, etc. Your cup of tea will have had some effect on your levels as caffeine and milk can raise levels. Milk is full of lactose, which is another name for sugar, so do be careful with it. Fruit is another food we need to be careful with as that is also high in sugar, and of course the starchy carbs like spuds, rice, pasta and bread. Do use your meter to test out foods, keep a strict food diary of everything you eat and drink including portion sizes, and record your levels alongside. This way you will learn what foods your body can cope with or can't cope with and in what portion sizes. For example, you may find like me that you can manage 1 slice of wholemeal bread, but not 2 slices. Eventually this will all become automatic.

Ask any questions you like.
 
Hi Dave and welcome to the forum :)

In addition to the information you have already been given by many members, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks you all for your kind welcomes!:)

My BG before lunch this morning was 5.8. Happy me! Just eaten one small chicken sandwich, with a stick of celery and a tomato. I'll check again at around 2-30pm to see the change.

I think I'm starting to get the hang of it now, but time will tell!

Cheers!!!
 
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