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Hello from France

Toulouse31

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hello, bit of a delayed intro. I had some high fasting results just before leaving for a Uk trip but back home in France now. I'm originally from suffolk. I have been reading the forum, some reccomended books and trying to work out what to do next. I bought an accucheck and have been monitoring, surprised how high some of my readings have been.
 
Welcome! I was brought up in Toulouse so your username is a blast from the past and a bit of nostalgia :). I now live in north East England.


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Bonjour, I'm another Frenchie but living near Versailles. I've been diagnosed with Type 2 2 years ago but have been in denial ever since with very occasinal bouts of "OMG". My Hb1ac was too bad last year at 6.1%, no idea what it's at now though but will do some blood tests soon. I'm not taking any drugs for the moment and am avoiding my doctor.

I've now taken my health into my own hand a couple of weeks ago, what clinched it what that documentary on sugar by Doctor Lustig (not sure of the spelling). I've started the LCHF diet in my own way, averaving 100-120 g carbs per day. I'm down 4 kg in 10 days so am well chuffed, but what's worrying me is my fasting glucose which does not seem to want to go under 150 mg (8.3 mmol). Does anyone here have the same problem? I've tried the vinegar just before bedtime (2 tbsp in some water, that takes some getting used to!)
 
hello aqualung and europa you probably know a lot more about the French health system than me!
 
Bonjour to the Frenchies :) - @Toulouse31 and @Europa - being Danish myself, this is in fact turning out to be a 'Global Diabetes Community'.

... but what's worrying me is my fasting glucose which does not seem to want to go under 150 mg (8.3 mmol). Does anyone here have the same problem? I've tried the vinegar just before bedtime (2 tbsp in some water, that takes some getting used to!)

From what I have learned, the fbg (fasting glucose) will often be the last to go down. So have patience. There is also such a thing as 'dawn phenomenon'. Try to google it. - And it is quite common to wake up to a fasting number higher than the one measured before going to bed - even though you have not eaten in the intervening hours.

I have anecdotally heard about vinegar but have yet to see anyone reporting that it will truly help them to lower their number. (Personally I prefer a nightcap ;))

annelise
 
Thanks Annelise, patience is not my forte I'm afraid :shy:. I need to give this more time (and more vinegar?) to find out if my numbers will go down over time. I must say, as a long time yo-yo dieter, I'm impressed with the low carb high fat diet. No cravings of any kind and no hunger feelings any more. It's early days yet, but anything that keeps me from ingesting 200 gr. of chocolate in one go (yes, 200 gr!) must be doing me some good...

Toulouse31: no idea how the French Health system deals with diabetes type 2, I was just told by doctor last year to take Metformin and go home, no diet advice at all. I see on this site that the Brits seem to have clinics and nurses to help them out. Maybe my BG figures weren't scary enough...
 
Thanks Annelise, patience is not my forte I'm afraid :shy:. I need to give this more time (and more vinegar?) to find out if my numbers will go down over time. I must say, as a long time yo-yo dieter, I'm impressed with the low carb high fat diet. No cravings of any kind and no hunger feelings any more. It's early days yet, but anything that keeps me from ingesting 200 gr. of chocolate in one go (yes, 200 gr!) must be doing me some good...

Toulouse31: no idea how the French Health system deals with diabetes type 2, I was just told by doctor last year to take Metformin and go home, no diet advice at all. I see on this site that the Brits seem to have clinics and nurses to help them out. Maybe my BG figures weren't scary enough...
I have found that being 'helped' by the NHS has seriously damaged my health! they seem to lag about 10-15 years behind , thank for for the interweb!
 
Bonjour et bienvenue! I live in Switzerland in the French speaking part.

Here is the information we give to new members although not all of it will apply to you in France but it will give you an idea of what to do next. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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