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andydo1964

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I was diagnosed with type 2 a week ago and the doctor started me on Metformin twice a day.
I have been feeling quite un well since i started on the Metformin (Nausea. sweating, hot flushes, headache etc) so i bought a monitor to see what my Blood Glucose was when i was feeling ill. The readings i have been getting average out to 16mmol the highest been 20mmol.

Is this bad?

I know i have only just been diagnosed and i havent figured the diet out yet but these readings are concerning me.
 
Hi Andy and welcome to the forum :) Yes, your levels are too high but you should be able to bring them down by reducing the carbohydrates in your diet. But do this gradually. In this information which we give to new members, you will find the NICE guidelines on recommended maximum levels for blood sugars. This is a maximum and it is best to get your levels below these. As far as I know, the way you are feeling doesn't sound like typical side effects of Metformin. Stomach problems are more typical, so if you still feel like that in a while maybe you should go back to your doctor. Ask as many questions as you need to as there is usually someone who can answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hi Andy,
Welcome to the forum. I know you will get loads of advise and support here. You need to give yourself a bit of time to get used to the metformin. The side effects do include nausea and occasionally vomiting. If things don't settle down after a month to six weeks I would mention it to your doc or diabetic nurse as they can change you to a slow release type of metformin which may be easier to tolerate. Hope you manage to get your readings down - again loads of advise on low carb eating on the site and the forum.
Good luck
 
Thank you Daisy and Chris

I tested this morning before i had anything to eat or drink and it was 9.9.

I have definitley been over doing thr carbs, i must have misunderstood the DN advice, i thought you had to eat plenty. Lets see what happens when i reduce them .
 
andydo1964 said:
I have definitley been over doing thr carbs, i must have misunderstood the DN advice, i thought you had to eat plenty. Lets see what happens when i reduce them .

You probably didn't misunderstand it, you're just another victim of an almost criminal level of institutional negligence by the NHS. Don't worry, hang around here for a bit and you'll get the advice you deserve, and with a bit of effort, you'll get the old diabetes under control in no time.
 
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