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dlee

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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
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Left Wing Activists, People that think the Tax Payer will foot the bill for everything, people that will not 'reason'.
Hi there, last week I was diagnosed as Type 2 Diabetic. I am 52, fit, healthy, eat well etc. and so this came as a total surprise. What is more annoying is that last January I decided as I am getting older, I gave up sugar in Tea & Coffee, stopped drinking sugary drinks such as Coke and even went caffeine FREE with Decaf Tea and Coffee.

As previously I have never suffered from anything, this was a total surprise, but I am now very confused about foods I should be eating as there appears from looking at different websites, major conflicting advice.

I don't eat a lot, one or two small meals a day if I am hungry, I eat a lot of meat and fish, beans (various), nuts etc. and the milk for my tea and coffee is Organic Skimmed Milk.

Is there a specialist on here that can advise?
 
Hi, Welcome :) you seem to be doing the right things which makes this suck worse, at least i was eating terribly so i deserved my diagnosis

basically try to reduce any carbohydrates from your diet or at least eat the more complex kind, wholegrain bread, wholemeal pasta, new potatoes instead of other kinds and brown rice, try to cut out fruit is you eat a lot, berries are best for us, but the most important question is have you been given a blood glucose meter? if not you should get one from the chemist or online, if you test before you eat and 2 hours afterward that will give you an ides as to which foods are making your bloods go high and therefore be able to cut down on those foods, we call it eating to your meter

ask questions if you have any, all of us go through the shock of diagnosis, its quite normal, we are here to help out if we can, there are some very knowledgable people here, someone usually knows the answers to any questions you come up with

best of luck
 
Hi dlee and welcome to the forum:)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Pick our brains when you need to know something !


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and thanks for the responses....

Don't get me wrong, although it came as a surprise, I am not worried about being Diagnosed Diabetic, that is life and it's the only thing I have 'got', never had Mumps, Measles, Chicken Pox, Colds, Flue etc. so I can't complain....!

I understand diet, years ago I used to do body building until I got impaled on the steering column of the car when hit head on by a drunk driver! Now I know from the Blood Tests I have had done, despite fasting for 12 hours, they were 8.7 & 8.4.

My Carb intake is not high as I have known for years that the biggest cause of people being overweight is nothing to do with the fat you eat or the number of calories, it is simply down to the body not using the carbs eaten and these get converted into fat for the 'reserves' the body might need at some point in the future.

I can cut down on the fruit I eat but that doesn't leave me much to 'snack' on as I have always used fruit and nuts to fill the gaps between meals when I feel a bit hungry. Years ago I used to eat a lot of sandwiches but cut those out due to the high carb and salt in the bread.

I currently weigh in at around 17st (110Kg), but I am 6ft, very broad and muscular so my GP was is worried about my weight, (most people think I actually weigh a lot less.) My BMI is 30, again the GP was not worried about this or my Cholesterol Level - his system in the surgery calculates my risk of heart attack or stroke as only 12%, which for my age etc. is well below the national average for my age.

I am beginning to think to eat next to nothing is the ONLY solution or to change my diet to 70% Protein, 20% Fat and 10% Carbs, but that is going to be a very difficult diet to maintain as the foods are simply not available.

Being Single and cooking for 1 doesn't make life any easier - maybe I need to start a company making 'Ready Made' meals for Diabetics LOL.
 
Hi and welcome

Being diagnosed with diabetes is quite a distressing experience, made all the worse by conflicting information regarding what you should and should not be doing. There are also often feelings of guilt associated with being diabetic, especially Type 2 diabetic, with the general public perception being that we somehow brought this on ourselves through bad eating habits and luck of exercise. It appears that you are living proof that this is not necessarily so! Diabetes is as much a matter of genetics as a lot of other diseases. I will not repeat the advise already given by others regarding diet etc other than to stress the need to test your blood sugar levels yourself so us to educate yourself on how your own body reacts to different foods - at the beginning I would test before and two hours after every meal. Being diagnosed is not the best of news but it is not a catastrophe either; diabetes is a condition that can be controlled with a bit of discipline. Lots of knowledgable people on this forum so if you have any questions ask away.


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Hi and welcome. The diagnosis came as a surprise for many of us, so you are not alone. You will find that the diet advice from those who have experience of having diabetes like most on this and other forums tends to be very similar. The divergence comes for the 'experts' who don't have that experience. The key food that needs management is carbohydrates as Daisy and others have said. Carbs are turned into glucose by the body and this affects blood. sugar. Diabetics can't handle glucose properly so the carb intake needs to be controlled. By having low-GI carbs and also having some fats with the carbs will slow absorption and reduce blood glucose spikes. With a meter you can determine how much you need to reduce your carbs and which foods affect you most. Many of us will set a max of something like 150gm/day or even a lot less. Proteins are fine and so are fats in sensible quantity. Green veg is good but avoid root veg, potatoes etc. Your diet already seems quite good. Don't worry about caffeine. Come back with more questions if your blood sugar remains high. Meds can be added by the GP if needed to help.
 
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